LoraandLayton Part 2

[briannaspeaks]

I see them fulfilling adoption.. and it possibly taking a while, about 3 years. And while they're waiting I see Lora getting pregnant "hoping" for a girl so she can grow up with the adopted daughter.

OR

I see them going through with adoption (however long it takes); once they have their daughter and are enjoying it Lora will want to have a biological daughter herself, then she'll get pregnant.

[ShayKae0422]

I didn't watch the whole thing because I was so annoyed at how overly peppy Lora was acting. Anyway, Have they even started the process? If not, I'm not even going to get upset over this. As I said before, adoption is a hard, long process. It is not easy and it is not a happy affair. I know a few people who adopted and their journeys were full of heartbreak...many almost gave up. I knew one that tried to adopt a newborn and a month before the birth, the mother changed her mind. I know several others who had failed adoption or had to fight like hell for their kid. I know someone who adopted internationally and it took 2 YEARS from start to finish and the girl she adopted has special needs (AIDS). Are they adopting privately? The wait for that in itself can take years. If they are gender and race specific, it can take even longer than normal. If they adopt from foster care, expect a lot of heartbreak and heart ache as you fall for kids and have to watch the state try to get them back with their druggy parents. If you adopt an older child (older than a year) the child WILL have some emotional issues...just think how the state dicks around with tayler...now just think how they dont think what she does is enough to take the kids. So the kids the state DOES take out have been in extremely bad environments with lasting scars.

I hear even the interview and acceptance process is long and daunting. They will learn soon enough that it is all puppies and roses. Watch her give up and decide to just pop one out instead.

It did very much disturb me how much she said she never wanted a girl and only wanted boys SEVERAL TIMES in her adoption announcement video. She practically said the only reason she wants to adopt a girl is because her kids want one. Yeah what a great reason. I pray if they do adopt a girl that she never sees that video and sees how much her mother DIDNT truly want her. Such an idiot...her boys are not going to be the ones raising the girl. If she doesnt like girls then why the hell is she going to adopt one and potentially have resentment for her? My son asks for a brother but you dont see me popping one out to please him because i am not equipt to deal with a third. There is a point where you need to draw the line with giving your kids what they want. Giving them a human being because THEY want one is absurd...you cant fuck with someone's life like that or treat them like some sort of gift.

THIS. Agree 100%. Lora is a freaking idiot. She thinks the adoption process is going to be all sunshine and flowers. I bet when she sees how truly hard and heartbreaking it will be, she will back out of it and just get knocked up again instead.

[thegooseiscooked]

The whole video was absolutely disgusting.

She made it sound like they were shopping for a new car. Declan wants a pink one.

Any shred of respect I had left for them has flown out the window. They are complete dickheads.

[Panda23]

I usually bite my tongue but today I can't. I think you're all being a tad harsh.

Adopting a child is exactly like shopping for a new car. It's absolutely brutal and events are held whereby prospective parents literally do 'shop' for their children. It's horrible, and the idea that some are left behind because no one wants them is horrific, but that's the way it is. I don't agree with everything this particular couple do, but I definitely don't think they're the worst family to be adopting. Even if you hate them, no one could deny that the child would be loved and would be entering finally a loving family. What worries me is that their other children are portrayed to be very well behaved, obviously children in the care system will come with a lot of baggage and no doubt behavioural problems to go with that, I do wonder how they will initially cope with it.

Going back to my point about 'shopping' for children. I don't agree with it, but that's what happens. And of course with that, the parents obviously are given the choice whether they wish to adopt a boy or a girl. Personally I don't mind that too much, as long as one child is going into a safe environment where their well-being will thrive and they have a shot of happiness is all that is relevant to me. I don't think any parent should be chastised for having a boy or girl preference.

Obviously this is purely my own opinion and we are all entitled to our own. But I do think some of these comments are awful. Are some of you incapable of having a discussion without name-calling? I'd much rather discuss things properly with an opinion mind because I find it all quite interesting. Rather than 'blah blah is X' - end of discussion.

Also, I very much doubt they're adopting to gain more views. Lora's videos don't seem to attract much attention, I doubt adopting a child would gain that many more viewers - i've never got the impression that she's ever done anything in particular to get views so why would she start now? Some families on Youtube, definitely i'd agree, but not this one.

[thegooseiscooked]

I'm more than happy to have a discussion with you.

I do think they're dickheads so that can be part of the discussion if you like but as you said, we are all entitled to our opinions. Is it name calling or simply giving my opinion? Where do you draw the line? If I never said anything that might offend Lora, I'd never contribute to this board. I don't like her. I think she is fake and shallow and stupid. If she chooses to read here, she is more than welcome to challenge me on anything I've said. Trust me, Lora has said some pretty petty and childish things to me over the years

I find it very surprising that people are allowed to choose a sex when adopting. If you feel a calling to adopt, surely this calling is to help any child who needs regardless of sex, age, race, religion and ability. Choosing a sex makes me think that the person is doing it for themselves rather than for the child. I certainly question Lora and Layton's motives in adopting. I don't recall ever seeing them be altruistic in the past, in fact they actually seem to be pretty hedonistic, self absorbed, self indulgent people.

Surely, if you believe firmly in adoption and the good it does, you couldn't believe in rejecting a child just because he had the misfortune to be born a boy?

I fully believe that Lora just jumps on the bandwagon of whatever is fashionable at the time. Layton....hmmm I don't think he has enough brains to even understand the emotional roller coaster they are embarking on. Hey, it seems like a good idea, why not? Mom and Dad will bail us out if we stuff up.

[mandylouwho]

I think rather than Tripp and Declan 'wanting' a girl she's trying to make it seem like they have intuition that their sister is out there somewhere and they have to adopt her into the family. Probably so she can be picky about getting a girl and people will just think it was meant to be and not that Lora turned down any boy that she was matched with. That's my guess.

[Hilly]

can someone fill me in ?
I don't watch all their videos
but in the moving blog they were greeted by their inlaws and I think I understood that they are neighbours now (live next to each other)
but how come now nana is coming to visit and she has a room next in their house ???? I'm confused


also is it me or is nana weird ?

[Panda23]

I'm more than happy to have a discussion with you.

I do think they're dickheads so that can be part of the discussion if you like but as you said, we are all entitled to our opinions. Is it name calling or simply giving my opinion? Where do you draw the line? If I never said anything that might offend Lora, I'd never contribute to this board. I don't like her. I think she is fake and shallow and stupid. If she chooses to read here, she is more than welcome to challenge me on anything I've said. Trust me, Lora has said some pretty petty and childish things to me over the years

I find it very surprising that people are allowed to choose a sex when adopting. If you feel a calling to adopt, surely this calling is to help any child who needs regardless of sex, age, race, religion and ability. Choosing a sex makes me think that the person is doing it for themselves rather than for the child. I certainly question Lora and Layton's motives in adopting. I don't recall ever seeing them be altruistic in the past, in fact they actually seem to be pretty hedonistic, self absorbed, self indulgent people.

Surely, if you believe firmly in adoption and the good it does, you couldn't believe in rejecting a child just because he had the misfortune to be born a boy?

I fully believe that Lora just jumps on the bandwagon of whatever is fashionable at the time. Layton....hmmm I don't think he has enough brains to even understand the emotional roller coaster they are embarking on. Hey, it seems like a good idea, why not? Mom and Dad will bail us out if we stuff up.

You make some interesting points, i'm all for discussing concepts. In this instance I definitely agree, where you draw the line is definitely subjective on the individual. I guess I don't appreciate name calling if there is little said as to how one came to that conclusion if you know what I mean? I'd rather see how they justify that labelled being assigned to that particular individual.

I'm not 100% what the protocol is in the US for adopting children (as i've only seen things on movies and who knows how accurate they are). But in the UK, events are held where parents go and meet the children to get to know them better with their social worker and foster parents. I recently watched a documentary on this whereby two children were continuously rejected and pretty much ignored at these gatherings because they were shy and didn't get involved. It was heartbreaking to see their social worker trying to 'sell' them to couples at the event and the children themselves were very much aware of it as they said "nobody wants me". Looking at that, i'd rather a couple like Lora and Layton adopt a child because it's the sex they desire than that child to get the image of themselves that they're not wanted (whether or not Lora and Layton would approach such a child is questionable of course but that's just an example).

I entirely agree in all that you've said about the adoption, I don't think it should be like shopping, (nor do I think it would be right to reject a boy personally). But unfortunately it is, just like you can specify on age - hence as to why older children are less likely to be adopted. I really can't comment on their motives because I have no speculation as to why bar the fact that it's unlikely they'd ever have a girl of their own (based on the previous three boys). I don't feel like I know them enough to judge their motives - i've watched them for four years and whilst I question what they do sometimes, i've never considered them to be money grabbing so I don't think it's about gaining views. Who knows?

I too agree that I don't think adoption is for them, based on the roller coaster as you say comes with adopting such a child. No doubt (being stereotypical) the child would come with issues which I think would very much be foreign ground for them,

[AnnaMolly]

can someone fill me in ?
I don't watch all their videos
but in the moving blog they were greeted by their inlaws and I think I understood that they are neighbours now (live next to each other)
but how come now nana is coming to visit and she has a room next in their house ???? I'm confused


also is it me or is nana weird ?

they live next to layton's dad and stepmom.
Nana is layton's mom.

and yes, she is weird.

[MamaJoAnna]

We had a family in our (very small) county have EIGHT boys biologically, trying for a girl after the first few. They eventually ended up adopting a girl AND her brother from somewhere in Asia bc they wouldn't have her separated from her brother (both kids at the time were maybe 2-3 years old?). So it wouldn't surprise me if Lora ended up trying to adopt #4 but ends up getting #4 and #5.

[rolo]

it kills me when people don't adopt from the foster care system, i hope they consider doing that. So many babies, kids and teens who need loving stable homes.

[ladybug]

I don't think she will ever actually go through with adoption.

[kiki]

I don't think she will ever actually go through with adoption.

I can't either. I don't think Lora has the ability to cope with what would likely be a very long, drawn out, possibly disappointing experience. Shes so deliriously happy that I just can't see her being able to handle it emotionally

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[marshmellow]

No, I don't think she's a "little" strange.

Extremely strange.

Lol.. I'm happy some others think the same too.. When she was like "I screeam , you screaam..." I was like, meh.

[cecegirl]

No, I don't think she's a "little" strange.

Extremely strange.

Lol.. I'm happy some others think the same too.. When she was like "I screeam , you screaam..." I was like, meh.

She was paying lots of attention to the kids and was actively involved in the kids' play. She seemed nice enough but I could not help but notice she was strange as soon as I saw her in the vlog, her hair and fashion style, her personality, etc ...
However, Lora loves her so much and she calls her BFF!

[thegooseiscooked]

Well....how desperate do you have to be to call your mother in law your BFF?

I mean, I'm all for close relationships, loving relationships even....that's great. But best friends....with your husband's mother? Awkward. My best friend and I drink a lot, we talk about sex and the nitty gritty of our relationships. We share secrets that we haven't told our husbands. Doing that with my MIL? Lol, not likely. I don't even behave like that with my mum and sisters.

[marshmellow]

What's up with her instatgram pic showing off her huge pile of pumped milk ?? She may have had some intention of helping others out of all that milk, but to me, it came across as a pure show-off.
I say this because many times in the past, she has boasted about her humongous milk supply, big boobs etc etc. Wonder what she finally did with that stock ??

[thegooseiscooked]

God, Lora has bloody awful taste. That wine glass she bought her step mother in law. Gack. It's not cute, it's not funny. It's tacky crap. I couldn't choke down a glass of wine in that.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

Lora has the taste of a twelve year old. And the general mentality as well.

[ladybug]

She has horrible taste in everything. From the way she dresses to the way she decorates her home. You would think at 25 she would have got it by now. Like the little shelf she randomly put over the light switch to place the remote on! (barf). Who does that? It's like something a young girl would come up with.