C&K: The Struggle is Real...ly Hard to Relate (Part 14)

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I hope they schedule it out in the future, but i give them a pass since its the first time. I think it's ok for them to be flexible at the start of this live stream endeavor until they figure out a time each Monday that works for them.
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canmom2 wrote:Maybe she should it was said IG because thats what the vlog about. Not sure why poeople on her pick on the youtubers. Is it jealously all the talk of the big houses and how lazy they are why


This is a gossip forum!!! That is why people talk that way on here... I suggest you leave before you are removed! We used to be fans of all these people and took our rose coloured glasses off and realized how the money from You Tube has changed them into lazy self righteous people... please find the exit!


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canmom2 wrote:Maybe she should it was said IG because thats what the vlog about. Not sure why poeople on her pick on the youtubers. Is it jealously all the talk of the big houses and how lazy they are why


This is a gossip forum!!! That is why people talk that way on here... I suggest you leave before you are removed! We used to be fans of all these people and took our rose coloured glasses off and realized how the money from You Tube has changed them into lazy self righteous people... please find the exit!


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Not agreeing or really weighing in on this whole conversion but i dont think someone can be "removed" just bc they have a different opinion than the majority.. What's with the threats?? dang...
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canmom2 wrote:Maybe she should it was said IG because thats what the vlog about. Not sure why poeople on her pick on the youtubers. Is it jealously all the talk of the big houses and how lazy they are why


This is a gossip forum!!! That is why people talk that way on here... I suggest you leave...We used to be fans of all these people and took our rose coloured glasses off and realized how the money from You Tube has changed them into lazy self righteous people... please find the exit!


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Not agreeing or really weighing in on this whole conversion but i dont think someone can be "removed" just bc they have a different opinion than the majority.. What's with the threats?? dang...

If she keeps putting down other members I’m sure the admin with not allow it


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This is a gossip forum!!! That is why people talk that way on here... I suggest you leave...We used to be fans of all these people and took our rose coloured glasses off and realized how the money from You Tube has changed them into lazy self righteous people... please find the exit!


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Not agreeing or really weighing in on this whole conversion but i dont think someone can be "removed" just bc they have a different opinion than the majority.. What's with the threats?? dang...

If she keeps putting down other members I’m sure the admin with not allow it


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Let the admin's deal with it then, i'm sure threatening to have someone removed bc you don't agree with them isn't exactly kosher either...
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Playsinrain wrote:I hope they schedule it out in the future, but i give them a pass since its the first time. I think it's ok for them to be flexible at the start of this live stream endeavor until they figure out a time each Monday that works for them.
I suppose, but I just don't see that happening.

This is a new concept that I expect they would be excited about and what to succeed. Giving people a "heads up" on when it will start is bound to bring in more numbers. It seems weird to just start whenever and risk having lower numbers if they truly want this to be a thing going forward.

Not setting a time seems like procrastinating because they don't really want to do it. I mean, it's not like they don't have family that can help with the kids for an hour. Are they going to just do it when the kids are quiet for a few minutes and risk getting interrupted? Again, that would set them up for failure.

I would expect their first crack at it to be the best effort. Maybe it's Cullen's failure to see things like this as a business move that has caused his channel to not thrive as much?
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Playsinrain wrote:I hope they schedule it out in the future, but i give them a pass since its the first time. I think it's ok for them to be flexible at the start of this live stream endeavor until they figure out a time each Monday that works for them.
Is it going to be every Monday though? I thought they said it would be as needed.


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KerrieL wrote:
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KerrieL wrote:

This is a gossip forum!!! That is why people talk that way on here... I suggest you leave...We used to be fans of all these people and took our rose coloured glasses off and realized how the money from You Tube has changed them into lazy self righteous people... please find the exit!


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Not agreeing or really weighing in on this whole conversion but i dont think someone can be "removed" just bc they have a different opinion than the majority.. What's with the threats?? dang...

If she keeps putting down other members I’m sure the admin with not allow it


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They won't. Personal attacks aren't allowed and are subject to ban. A mod probably just didn't see the comment because lmmomsd didn't report it.
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HelloSweetie wrote:
Playsinrain wrote:I hope they schedule it out in the future, but i give them a pass since its the first time. I think it's ok for them to be flexible at the start of this live stream endeavor until they figure out a time each Monday that works for them.
I suppose, but I just don't see that happening.

This is a new concept that I expect they would be excited about and what to succeed. Giving people a "heads up" on when it will start is bound to bring in more numbers. It seems weird to just start whenever and risk having lower numbers if they truly want this to be a thing going forward.

Not setting a time seems like procrastinating because they don't really want to do it. I mean, it's not like they don't have family that can help with the kids for an hour. Are they going to just do it when the kids are quiet for a few minutes and risk getting interrupted? Again, that would set them up for failure.

I would expect their first crack at it to be the best effort. Maybe it's Cullen's failure to see things like this as a business move that has caused his channel to not thrive as much?
Maybe they will announce a time later today? I totally get and agree with what you are saying for sure.. I just think they need a chance to work the kinks out first.
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askeptichere wrote:
Playsinrain wrote:I hope they schedule it out in the future, but i give them a pass since its the first time. I think it's ok for them to be flexible at the start of this live stream endeavor until they figure out a time each Monday that works for them.
Is it going to be every Monday though? I thought they said it would be as needed.


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I took it as every Monday for the near future, but maybe i'm wrong. I just thought that it was a "for now" kinda deal and that they would reevaluate and see what they want to do after a bit..
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I also thought they meant Mondays for the future as well.
I dont mind livestreams. There is one every Friday that I watch most weeks. Its a set time though, that could be Cullens downfall. I understand theyre not sure what time will work good but within a couple of weeks they should be able to nail down a time for the livestreams.
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Before I share my thoughts on what they’ve shared over the last few days, let me say that I have been with my husband for nine years. Marriage is hard at times, and like I said before there are times where you are connecting and there are times where you are disconnected for various reasons. Sometimes life gets crazy, sometimes you aren’t prioritizing your partner, and sometimes you just forget how to communicate in a way that is kind and conducive to a close marriage.

I think Katie saying that she is insecure in her relationship and that Cullen only shows her affection for the camera is very telling. She also said that her first reaction when something happens is to pick up the camera and film it. That pretty much confirms what has been speculated about vloggers for some time- that they begin living their lives purely as a means to generate content. It really seems to poison their perspective. I think Cullen in particular seems susceptible to this because he enjoys the attention and the outside validation. I really think has grown to care more about the narrative and the façade he presents to viewers.

They seem to agree that they’re on a bad path right now and they want to make changes. But I think the things they highlighted are scapegoats. I doubt that anyone’s marriage is suffering because they moved into their dream home, have parties to plan and trips to take with their family. I think all of those things can be stressful and they can shine a light on problems in a marriage that were already present. Buying your dream home does not make you happy and it does not make your marriage better if there are cracks forming. It’s just a house. I think they expected the move to make them feel like they’ve “made it” so to speak. I’ve known a few people who stretch their budget to finally buy their “forever home” only to divorce a year later.

I think they are also realizing that they majorly underestimated the challenge of a second child. They assumed they would get another baby exactly like their first, and then they realized that every child is different and they have to relearn to parent this different personality.

They clearly still share a sense of humor and still enjoy one another, but I think they have some big differences in personality and their outlook on life. These differences appear to have led to frustrations and contempt for one another that is evident in their interactions and the way they speak to each other. Contempt is the biggest red flag in a marriage. Yes, a second child is hard and yes, working together is hard. But it’s not a matter of more date nights. In my experience, you have to respect and appreciate one another equally or else that contempt will ooze out of every interaction. And sometimes each person needs to make some big changes in order to earn that respect or to genuinely feel that appreciation, such as re-configuring how they are splitting the business responsibilities and the child-rearing responsibilities. You have to be willing to articulate what you need in a partnership and you need to be willing to see your own shortcomings.
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HelloSweetie wrote:
KerrieL wrote:
Playsinrain wrote: Not agreeing or really weighing in on this whole conversion but i dont think someone can be "removed" just bc they have a different opinion than the majority.. What's with the threats?? dang...

If she keeps putting down other members I’m sure the admin with not allow it


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They won't. Personal attacks aren't allowed and are subject to ban. A mod probably just didn't see the comment because lmmomsd didn't report it.
Nope. Didn't. Didn't occur to me. I will though, if a certain person calls me stupid again. But I might not see it because I used the tool of the foe button!Image

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HashtagBlessed wrote:Before I share my thoughts on what they’ve shared over the last few days, let me say that I have been with my husband for nine years. Marriage is hard at times, and like I said before there are times where you are connecting and there are times where you are disconnected for various reasons. Sometimes life gets crazy, sometimes you aren’t prioritizing your partner, and sometimes you just forget how to communicate in a way that is kind and conducive to a close marriage.

I think Katie saying that she is insecure in her relationship and that Cullen only shows her affection for the camera is very telling. She also said that her first reaction when something happens is to pick up the camera and film it. That pretty much confirms what has been speculated about vloggers for some time- that they begin living their lives purely as a means to generate content. It really seems to poison their perspective. I think Cullen in particular seems susceptible to this because he enjoys the attention and the outside validation. I really think has grown to care more about the narrative and the façade he presents to viewers.

They seem to agree that they’re on a bad path right now and they want to make changes. But I think the things they highlighted are scapegoats. I doubt that anyone’s marriage is suffering because they moved into their dream home, have parties to plan and trips to take with their family. I think all of those things can be stressful and they can shine a light on problems in a marriage that were already present. Buying your dream home does not make you happy and it does not make your marriage better if there are cracks forming. It’s just a house. I think they expected the move to make them feel like they’ve “made it” so to speak. I’ve known a few people who stretch their budget to finally buy their “forever home” only to divorce a year later.

I think they are also realizing that they majorly underestimated the challenge of a second child. They assumed they would get another baby exactly like their first, and then they realized that every child is different and they have to relearn to parent this different personality.

They clearly still share a sense of humor and still enjoy one another, but I think they have some big differences in personality and their outlook on life. These differences appear to have led to frustrations and contempt for one another that is evident in their interactions and the way they speak to each other. Contempt is the biggest red flag in a marriage. Yes, a second child is hard and yes, working together is hard. But it’s not a matter of more date nights. In my experience, you have to respect and appreciate one another equally or else that contempt will ooze out of every interaction. And sometimes each person needs to make some big changes in order to earn that respect or to genuinely feel that appreciation, such as re-configuring how they are splitting the business responsibilities and the child-rearing responsibilities. You have to be willing to articulate what you need in a partnership and you need to be willing to see your own shortcomings.
Wow-- that was a really good breakdown of the situation! I know exactly what you mean about contempt. When your husband irritates you just by breathing, it's really awful. Been there. And somehow, I can just see Katie thinking to herself "He's doing it again!" When Cullen is just breathing. She doesn't even tell him when he's being inappropriate anymore.
I do hope they are able to come together. It makes me sad that what seemed to be a good marriage is being ruined by vlogging. Maybe they would have had these issues anyway, but I doubt it.

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That pretty much confirms what has been speculated about vloggers for some time- that they begin living their lives purely as a means to generate content. It really seems to poison their perspective. I think Cullen in particular seems susceptible to this because he enjoys the attention and the outside validation. I really think has grown to care more about the narrative and the façade he presents to viewers.
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Exactly. I can't imagine living like this and judging every day for its "vlog worthiness." What it a friend wand to go out for the day but doesn't want to be in the vlogs. You just have to refuse? What if family aren't interesting enough to waste potential vlogging time on? What if the kids aren't being as cute and marketable as you would like?

It all just seems like such an unhealthy way to live, and not worth the money in my opinion. Home is supposed to be a "safe space," and not an added stressor.
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The live stream started, and I don't know if it's just my computer, but the video quality is horrendous. It's them sitting outside with the kids. They should have just taken a day off instead of phoning it in with this.
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I can't imagine they look at their day to day life and see it as vlog worthy. When she mentioned the watermelon patch.. I was thinking to myself, never seen one in the vlog.
They are around each other too much. I don't think Jay brings out and kind of responsibility in Cullen.. So I'm sure that makes it worse.
DB have those goofy skits to toss in the mix and the amazon purchases to show off.. So far in the new house we've seen Cullen make the walking rings and what else???

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Wow. Sound and picture quality was awful during the live stream. Think I’m probably done with watching these guys for the moment. They don’t seem genuine anymore, quality of videos has gone down. Gaines is becoming very spoilt too.



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Ok, that live stream told me a lot about their dynamic. Katie is trying to livestream (with a phone at 20%), answer comments, keep Brooks happy, help MG with toys and Cullen is just sitting there detached and unaware of all this chaos working away on the pumpkin. Seriously? I swear he used to be more attentive and supportive than this. They knew they were going to livestream all day, why wait until they are busy doing pumpkins and Brooks is already grumpy from hitting his face. I think Katie is sacrificing more and more to try and hold things together. The live stream changed my opinion and made me feel so bad for her when before I thought they were both equally as lazy.
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So the difference between this livestream and one on instagram is basically they will make money off of this one? I guess I am not a fan of live streams. They are so boring.


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