2011Teenagemom Part 18

[Doopher]

Eb, did you even read any of the posts? Seriously, because we said that NONE of the kids should be called ugly. I think it's terrible to call anyone's kid ugly just for the sake of being mean but honestly, I think it IS actually a little meaner in lily's case because her Turner syndrome makes her look a little different from other kids. Again, to clarify, it's kind of mean to call any child ugly. Do it on your own time, behind closed doors. Not on here, where we KNOW these mothers read. It doesn't accomplish anything.

[gypsophila]

So its not ok to say lily isn't cute? But its ok to call Nolan or jess' kids ugly? I don't get it because she has something wrong with her? People think some things wrong with one of jess kids (I don't know which one) but can say he's ugly. I don't think its mean. Its what I think its not like I'm directly saying it to the damn kid. So get over it.

No. It is 100% not okay to call a child who clearly has a syndrome, ugly. If those are your values, you are fucked up. There, I said it. I don't talk about looks at all. The most I've ever mentioned was behaviour, which CAN be blamed on the mom to an extent.

[eb1989]

Eb, did you even read any of the posts? Seriously, because we said that NONE of the kids should be called ugly. I think it's terrible to call anyone's kid ugly just for the sake of being mean but honestly, I think it IS actually a little meaner in lily's case because her Turner syndrome makes her look a little different from other kids. Again, to clarify, it's kind of mean to call any child ugly. Do it on your own time, behind closed doors. Not on here, where we KNOW these mothers read. It doesn't accomplish anything.

Yeah I did. Sorry if I offended you in anyway. But I will not take back what I said, I said it and I'll stand behind it. So you think its bullying to call her not cute right? Is it bullying to say she might have down syndrome? I'm honestly curious where the line is with you people

[ohgoodness]

I'm was just making fun of the people on this forum who get up in anyone's ass who say Lily isn't cute, yet if you go over to another forum they'll be calling Nolan ugly or things like that.

Ya.

[Doopher]

Gypso, I agree with you. And eb, I think it's okay to mention looks or behavior if you genuinely think a child might have Down syndrome and you are saying it out of concern for the child. But I honestly can't imagine a situation in where a mother doesnt realize her child might have DS but YouTube viewers do. If people talk about a child's looks because they notice specific physical features that may indicate a problem, I think that's fine. Ok? I feel like we may all be on the same page now. Or hopefully on the same chapter.
Let's talk about something fun now!

[09love]

All of you that are defending Lilly because someone called her "not cute" should really go to Jess's thread, Taylor's, and Britney's thread and defend their kids. Maybe you guys can spread all the love on a GOSSIP forum. Teach the meanies that it's not ok to talk about kids that way! Tell them to find another place to do that. Like a gossip pla..... Oh wait.... STFU not everyone finds her cute (my self included) but I nor has anyone else ever said the world ugly. We said not cute. So get over it and fight for landed, kyson, Lucy's youngest, nolen, and amberlin.

[_809lovely]

All of you that are defending Lilly because someone called her "not cute" should really go to Jess's thread, Taylor's, and Britney's thread and defend their kids. Maybe you guys can spread all the love on a GOSSIP forum. Teach the meanies that it's not ok to talk about kids that way! Tell them to find another place to do that. Like a gossip pla..... Oh wait.... STFU not everyone finds her cute (my self included) but I nor has anyone else ever said the world ugly. We said not cute. So get over it and fight for landed, kyson, Lucy's youngest, nolen, and amberlin.

Amen

[Freaksngeeks]

Eb, it's people like you who are going to make life more difficult for Lily. Have a heart! Maybe try and look past the fact that she's not a traditionally cherubed-faced toddler and appreciate her differences or just don't be so shallow and acknowledge her unique cuteness and her sweet personality. I get that some people don't find her cute, but why come on here to just say that? You didn't even say anything else. Just that she's not cute. Why not keep that to yourself? We know Vanessa reads here and while we may say things about her and her choices, it's just plain mean to comment on lily's looks. Don't you think she's worried that people will bully her or treat her different in life? This is just my opinion but it bothers me when people come on here to say Lily isn't cute. If that's how you feel, fine. But there's no point in sharing that opinion. It's mean.

People say a lot worse things then a opinion like Lily isn't cute. It's not nice but a lot of things on here aren't very nice. Should it be said? I don't say things like that but some people are just honest. Vanessa reads here but she doesn't care. I said it before but if she really cared about people saying things like "Lily isn't cute" & worried about Lily eventually being hurt over these things, she wouldn't be putting her life on the internet. Vanessa knows that with that comes opinions like that. I've actually seen comments like "stop filming your ugly child", "eww I don't want to see that ugly kid", & even comments accusing David of molesting Lily. I've seen such comments on Instagram & YouTube.
It's really sad. But I really don't think Vanessa cares. And that's sad also. I don't think trying to stop these comments is worth your time. Vanessa doesn't even delete them. Don't waste your time. People have opinions. For every "Lily isn't cute" comment, you get 5 "Lily is cute" comments. Don't try to fight it, not worth your time.

[Doopher]

You know what? Fine. You guys are right. We should all just spout off nasty dirty shit about these kids because, as has been said a million times before, it happens on other threads or people say even worse things than "not cute." And OBVIOUSLY Vanessa doesn't give a shit because she's the one making videos. Wow, I was so stupid! Vanessa is practically begging for it! So yeah, I'm sorry for trying to stand up for what's right. I'll just talk about how ugly she is and how David molests her. That sounds way better! Thanks for keeping me in line. You are right to defend those people. They're clearly right while I'm in the wrong. And since we've all come to an agreement that it's not mean to say someone's child isn't cute, I'm sure you would have noo problem walking up to some mother tomorrow and telling her her kid isn't cute. It's not mean! It's just being honest. If that offends her, you'll tell her to grow thicker skin. You're so wise!

[Dumbledore]

Maybe some of you have witnessed or experienced worse, but I've never seen children bully a kid with a syndrome. Kids are taught which kids are "off limits" in terms of bullying (I know in an ideal world no kid would be bullied, but lets face it its usually the nerd/teacher's pet or the fat kid or the kid with a scar/birth mark, for example that gets bullied). I do still feel bad for lily though bc she will face challenges in school, I think V said TS girls are naturally shy? And in my experience, kids usually avoid hanging out with "off limits" kids bc they have to be *extra* nice and tip toe around them and go out of their way to include them. That's why I think socializing lily NOW is important. Instead of waiting around on the sidelines for an invitation to play, she needs to feel comfortable enough to just get in there and do it.

[gypsophila]

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[Freaksngeeks]

You know what? Fine. You guys are right. We should all just spout off nasty dirty shit about these kids because, as has been said a million times before, it happens on other threads or people say even worse things than "not cute." And OBVIOUSLY Vanessa doesn't give a shit because she's the one making videos. Wow, I was so stupid! Vanessa is practically begging for it! So yeah, I'm sorry for trying to stand up for what's right. I'll just talk about how ugly she is and how David molests her. That sounds way better! Thanks for keeping me in line. You are right to defend those people. They're clearly right while I'm in the wrong. And since we've all come to an agreement that it's not mean to say someone's child isn't cute, I'm sure you would have noo problem walking up to some mother tomorrow and telling her her kid isn't cute. It's not mean! It's just being honest. If that offends her, you'll tell her to grow thicker skin. You're so wise!

Hey now, I'm not saying we should go around calling kids ugly and what not!!! Def not what I was saying!
If you want to get your panties in a bunch over someone saying "Lily isn't cute", go for it. If you want to go around trying to stand up for Lily everytime someone says something that's not nice, go for it.
Most on here have just seen this time & time again. Fight all you want, but there will always be another person to say something just as bad or even worse.
I think that's Vanessa's job and that's what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying she Is begging for it because she makes videos.
Also, I just want to say, I never said David molested her. I was saying I read a comment accusing him of, and how if you think a "Lily isn't cute" comment is horrible, that comment is by far the worst I've read & most damaging to Lily, and her family. Please don't get people thinking that he actually does.
I should of never said that because I would hate for such a serious accusation to be thrown around.

[09love]

You know what? Fine. You guys are right. We should all just spout off nasty dirty shit about these kids because, as has been said a million times before, it happens on other threads or people say even worse things than "not cute." And OBVIOUSLY Vanessa doesn't give a shit because she's the one making videos. Wow, I was so stupid! Vanessa is practically begging for it! So yeah, I'm sorry for trying to stand up for what's right. I'll just talk about how ugly she is and how David molests her. That sounds way better! Thanks for keeping me in line. You are right to defend those people. They're clearly right while I'm in the wrong. And since we've all come to an agreement that it's not mean to say someone's child isn't cute, I'm sure you would have noo problem walking up to some mother tomorrow and telling her her kid isn't cute. It's not mean! It's just being honest. If that offends her, you'll tell her to grow thicker skin. You're so wise!

You obviously have no idea what I said. We said she's NOT CUTE!! Not any of those things others have said. That's just uncalled for, but really? Throwing a bitch fit cuz I said a child isn't cute. I have two girls and I know for a damn fact they aren't cute to everyone, it's life. You probably aren't cute to some and smokin hot to others.

[SomeOfTheseBitches]

e="09love"]

You know what? Fine. You guys are right. We should all just spout off nasty dirty shit about these kids because, as has been said a million times before, it happens on other threads or people say even worse things than "not cute." And OBVIOUSLY Vanessa doesn't give a shit because she's the one making videos. Wow, I was so stupid! Vanessa is practically begging for it! So yeah, I'm sorry for trying to stand up for what's right. I'll just talk about how ugly she is and how David molests her. That sounds way better! Thanks for keeping me in line. You are right to defend those people. They're clearly right while I'm in the wrong. And since we've all come to an agreement that it's not mean to say someone's child isn't cute, I'm sure you would have noo problem walking up to some mother tomorrow and telling her her kid isn't cute. It's not mean! It's just being honest. If that offends her, you'll tell her to grow thicker skin. You're so wise!

You obviously have no idea what I said. We said she's NOT CUTE!! Not any of those things others have said. That's just uncalled for, but really? Throwing a bitch fit cuz I said a child isn't cute. I have two girls and I know for a damn fact they aren't cute to everyone, it's life. You probably aren't cute to some and smokin hot to others.[/quote]


Youre starting to take this way to far.

[09love]

e="09love"]

You know what? Fine. You guys are right. We should all just spout off nasty dirty shit about these kids because, as has been said a million times before, it happens on other threads or people say even worse things than "not cute." And OBVIOUSLY Vanessa doesn't give a shit because she's the one making videos. Wow, I was so stupid! Vanessa is practically begging for it! So yeah, I'm sorry for trying to stand up for what's right. I'll just talk about how ugly she is and how David molests her. That sounds way better! Thanks for keeping me in line. You are right to defend those people. They're clearly right while I'm in the wrong. And since we've all come to an agreement that it's not mean to say someone's child isn't cute, I'm sure you would have noo problem walking up to some mother tomorrow and telling her her kid isn't cute. It's not mean! It's just being honest. If that offends her, you'll tell her to grow thicker skin. You're so wise!

You obviously have no idea what I said. We said she's NOT CUTE!! Not any of those things others have said. That's just uncalled for, but really? Throwing a bitch fit cuz I said a child isn't cute. I have two girls and I know for a damn fact they aren't cute to everyone, it's life. You probably aren't cute to some and smokin hot to others.

Youre starting to take this way to far.[/quote]

How is this taking it way too far? It's been said a million times. Not everyone finds her cute ( notice I haven't said ugly) and that's ok. Some of these ladies have to understand that all of this is happening because vanessa decided to film her life and her daughters. If it wasn't for that, we wouldn't even know who she was. She left horrible comments on pictures of lily meanwhile deleting everything that calls her out on her looks. Who does that?

[Fairplay]

To be honest, If someone says she's ugly then yes, thats offensive but i feel when they say "she's not that cute" I find it more of a personal taste. They joke about kids not being cute all the time in shows and movies. It someone doesn't think my child is cute then okay whatever but it will hurt of they call her flat out ugly. I don't know, just putting that out there. I personally don't find Lily cute and I'm not trying to insult her. It's like someone asking me if i found so and so pretty and me saying, I dont find her that pretty. I find that harmless. I remember reading a comment where someone said Lily looked like a BAT and i was like yikes..

Personally, I would rather my kids be called well behaved and loveable than cute. Looks arent everything. I cringe when I see parents dress their kids in Burberry and designer clothes. My daughter is always in sweats most of the time because I would rather her play and have a positive mind than that. There are cute kids that are soo bratty and mean. I hate it. Although i dont find Lily cute, she's calm and not annoying :p THAT is the type of kid I prefer

[eb1989]

I just don't get getting upset about someone talking shit, no matter what is said on a freaking GOSSIP FORUM. if u guys love them so much why would you even be on here.

[Cough]

Since when does not cute = ugly? Maybe the ones who flip out are the ones who subconsciously think Lily is ugly. You can't dictate what other people think or say. And yes Lily has a syndrome but I have seen other girls with turners that look nothing like her.

[Fairplay]

My comment kinda doesn't make sense, sorry! But damn people, relax. The original poster didn't even call Lily ugly..

[shelbyxo26]

Is she still doing yoga? I don't follow her on IG anymore so I haven't kept up

No, she doesn't. Which is actually kind of upsetting in a way because she actually looked a lot healthier and happier when she did yoga and she gained muscle.