8 Passengers: No Rules & Private Schools | Part 9

[Lolislol26]

It's not just Ruby. Ellie does the same thing. Jackson asked for toast the other night because he was still hungry, and Ellie said "no".
I get that money was once an issue, but it's obviously not anymore. Feed the kids a real meal. And she was actually claiming to be worried about Eve not growing?

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Yes! And even if money would still be an issue: enough food for the kids should be one of the top priorities. We did not have a lot of money when I was a kid, but I always had a enough to eat.

Not that long ago Kevin wrote something about how people think, that their older kids are so good raised/well behaved - so there is no need to worry about Eve. Well. I can not see Chad that way. He really needs a way more strict guidance. In a vlog a couple of weeks ago, Ruby had to stop him from doing this toilet/flush thing with Russell (before I have seen this only in american teenage series/movies, did not think, that is a real thing). To me even the thought is kind of horrible - I know, siblings tease each other and are sometimes also very rough with each other, but Chad is a teenager and should already have learned a better behaviour.

Chad, IMO needs some anger management along with Russell and Ruby... honestly not sure if Kevin is the same way, but none of the 3 handle their anger very well. If any of you watch The Leroy's, you can see how Chad is constantly getting angry with Kesley, and hanging up on her over the tiniest of things, even things he's just done himself.. but, if Kesley does the same, it's NOT okay and he gets all mad and hangs up... then Kesley looks distraught and scared that he wont forgive whatever it was she said/did. Russell gets angry over every single thing... throws a tantrum. He's 7 years old... he is WAY past the tantrum stage... ans his bursts of anger only seem to get worse as time goes on. Ruby acts like she's all in control, but when she pulls the "I'll be back I need to turn off the camera a minute" and then comes back... the kids all look scared. What did she do? Yell at them or smack em? I wouldn't put it past her to smack them tbh. She just has no patience at all. She should never have had so many kids... 1 and done maybe 2. Which is sad to say because each of those kids can be amazing in their own way, if they had good loving parenting, and I wouldn't wish any of them to not be here. Ruby is an awful parent, and honestly, Kevin isn't much better.

Kesley and Chad already have an unhealthy relationship and the relationship isn’t even starting for another 2 years.

[lmmomSD]

Yes! And even if money would still be an issue: enough food for the kids should be one of the top priorities. We did not have a lot of money when I was a kid, but I always had a enough to eat.

Not that long ago Kevin wrote something about how people think, that their older kids are so good raised/well behaved - so there is no need to worry about Eve. Well. I can not see Chad that way. He really needs a way more strict guidance. In a vlog a couple of weeks ago, Ruby had to stop him from doing this toilet/flush thing with Russell (before I have seen this only in american teenage series/movies, did not think, that is a real thing). To me even the thought is kind of horrible - I know, siblings tease each other and are sometimes also very rough with each other, but Chad is a teenager and should already have learned a better behaviour.

Chad, IMO needs some anger management along with Russell and Ruby... honestly not sure if Kevin is the same way, but none of the 3 handle their anger very well. If any of you watch The Leroy's, you can see how Chad is constantly getting angry with Kesley, and hanging up on her over the tiniest of things, even things he's just done himself.. but, if Kesley does the same, it's NOT okay and he gets all mad and hangs up... then Kesley looks distraught and scared that he wont forgive whatever it was she said/did. Russell gets angry over every single thing... throws a tantrum. He's 7 years old... he is WAY past the tantrum stage... ans his bursts of anger only seem to get worse as time goes on. Ruby acts like she's all in control, but when she pulls the "I'll be back I need to turn off the camera a minute" and then comes back... the kids all look scared. What did she do? Yell at them or smack em? I wouldn't put it past her to smack them tbh. She just has no patience at all. She should never have had so many kids... 1 and done maybe 2. Which is sad to say because each of those kids can be amazing in their own way, if they had good loving parenting, and I wouldn't wish any of them to not be here. Ruby is an awful parent, and honestly, Kevin isn't much better.

Kesley and Chad already have an unhealthy relationship and the relationship isn’t even starting for another 2 years.

But how much of that "My crush is mad at me" bs is just for views? Not at all discounting the idea that Chad needs anger management therapy. Didn't Ruby homeschool him for a year because of behavior issues? But I do think Shanna and Ruby are totally milking the whole "crush" for views.
They are such hypocrites. They're basically making up a boyfriend girlfriend relationship between their children to pull in views, but because they _say_ the kids can't date until they are 16, they call it a "crush" instead of boyfriend-girlfriend. I guess too many people pointed out them calling Brevin Shari's "boyfriend" before she could date.
These people are in more desperate need of a thesaurus than just about anyone else I have ever seen. Come up with a different word than "crush", people!

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[Lolislol26]

Chad, IMO needs some anger management along with Russell and Ruby... honestly not sure if Kevin is the same way, but none of the 3 handle their anger very well. If any of you watch The Leroy's, you can see how Chad is constantly getting angry with Kesley, and hanging up on her over the tiniest of things, even things he's just done himself.. but, if Kesley does the same, it's NOT okay and he gets all mad and hangs up... then Kesley looks distraught and scared that he wont forgive whatever it was she said/did. Russell gets angry over every single thing... throws a tantrum. He's 7 years old... he is WAY past the tantrum stage... ans his bursts of anger only seem to get worse as time goes on. Ruby acts like she's all in control, but when she pulls the "I'll be back I need to turn off the camera a minute" and then comes back... the kids all look scared. What did she do? Yell at them or smack em? I wouldn't put it past her to smack them tbh. She just has no patience at all. She should never have had so many kids... 1 and done maybe 2. Which is sad to say because each of those kids can be amazing in their own way, if they had good loving parenting, and I wouldn't wish any of them to not be here. Ruby is an awful parent, and honestly, Kevin isn't much better.

Kesley and Chad already have an unhealthy relationship and the relationship isn’t even starting for another 2 years.

But how much of that "My crush is mad at me" bs is just for views? Not at all discounting the idea that Chad needs anger management therapy. Didn't Ruby homeschool him for a year because of behavior issues? But I do think Shanna and Ruby are totally milking the whole "crush" for views.
They are such hypocrites. They're basically making up a boyfriend girlfriend relationship between their children to pull in views, but because they _say_ the kids can't date until they are 16, they call it a "crush" instead of boyfriend-girlfriend. I guess too many people pointed out them calling Brevin Shari's "boyfriend" before she could date.
These people are in more desperate need of a thesaurus than just about anyone else I have ever seen. Come up with a different word than "crush", people!

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She did home school him for behavior issues and then sent him to a private school vs going pack to public. It clearly didn’t work and her YouTube “hobby” is only making his behavior worse.

[f4k_oyevey]

If they only want him at school with a parent or not at all, bets about how long until he gets kicked out & how they cover it up? They may be paying a hefty price for private school but even those schools have limits (& honor codes). Both the boys in that family need a lot of help,but their parents need to open their eyes first. I'm still floored at Kevin's lack of involvement /investment in their children's education, he is so checked out/detached, it's disappointing. Smh...


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[freshbalsam]

Besides, this is not the first time Chad has had an issue at this school. I think it was last year that he had to clean the bathrooms because of his bad behavior? Like a lot of you have said, it wouldn’t surprise me if in a year or 2 his enrollment is withheld.

I was also like “WTF” when Ruby quickly said no way to going to his school. I’m sure they wanted to talk to her about what the situation was, expectations for the future, future consequences, etc. If it was my kid, I’d want to get the adult side of the story too and not just my kid replaying what happened.

[PoppyFlower1]

Todays vlog said so many words about the kind of person Kevin is the more he opens him self up to the camera. You can see where the kids get there pompus self righteous bullying attitudes from. Kevin did the hardest eye roll and said that a kid was weird because he song nicely during the birthday song. a 40 year old man telling a child their weird. oh how nice! then egomaniac remarks like "oh they took a photo on me for this underwear box" no, your not hot, your an old Mormon freak who thinks their the bees knees. Ruby has 0 control over her family, Kevin seems to be the leading influencer in the kids attitude and complete ill tempered bullying. he encourages the fighting (when he pushed russel to get into fighting) and encouraged the wrestling, he also recently became vain about getting strong, so its very clear he loves the aggression in chad and Russel because it makes them manly. Shari has a creepy attachment to both Kevin and chad, literally worships them. Kevin loves that Eve gets into trouble. Julie became very aggressive and Abbie acts on the camera like she's a sweet little girl, but reality she also has been punching her brothers in the private parts, hitting, pulling and scratching Julie and everyone gangs up on Russell everyday, no wonder that little boy is showing serve anger issues with the contant freak outs and violence. its so sad to see.

[lmmomSD]

Not surprising that Kevin thinks he's so great. He's one of very few members of the Griffiths extended family with any education beyond high school (and not even college prep high school in Bonnie and Ellie's case-- cosmetology focused high school). Don't get me wrong-- I know plenty of perfectly bright hair stylists. But they have sought out other types of education-- travel, reading, things like that. But the willful ignorance among most of the Griffiths has got to make Kevin feel like a member of Mensa. All the times he and Shari have laughed at Ruby being "ditzy" on camera are pretty good indicators. I don't understand their relationship at all. He seems to have so little respect for her.

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[HelloSweetie]

Not surprising that Kevin thinks he's so great. He's one of very few members of the Griffiths extended family with any education beyond high school (and not even college prep high school in Bonnie and Ellie's case-- cosmetology focused high school). Don't get me wrong-- I know plenty of perfectly bright hair stylists. But they have sought out other types of education-- travel, reading, things like that. But the willful ignorance among most of the Griffiths has got to make Kevin feel like a member of Mensa. All the times he and Shari have laughed at Ruby being "ditzy" on camera are pretty good indicators. I don't understand their relationship at all. He seems to have so little respect for her.

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Wasn’t it Kevin and Sheri that laughed at Aunt Linda the time she sang the national anthem?


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[Catface2]

If they only want him at school with a parent or not at all, bets about how long until he gets kicked out & how they cover it up? They may be paying a hefty price for private school but even those schools have limits (& honor codes). Both the boys in that family need a lot of help,but their parents need to open their eyes first. I'm still floored at Kevin's lack of involvement /investment in their children's education, he is so checked out/detached, it's disappointing. Smh...


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I’m wondering if Kevin believes deep down that because he procreated with a Griffiths, his kids are doomed to sub par intelligence and zero common sense. Maybe that’s why they said they’d pay for A’s...he knows it’s not going to happen. IDK...just a thought.

[Kattiness Everdeen]

I just caught up on some videos and am pretty appalled at Ruby's new vlog style. Her kids are rude, violent and they have no idea what to do about it.

* Ruby couldn't make it any more clear that she thinks education is worthless and parents have no place in it. Her laziness and apathy is sickening. A 5 yr old is no excuse to not be able to leave the house. She gets to her eyebrow appointments just fine.

* I am starting to be on-board with all your assumptions that Ruby is "harsh" with the kids off-cam. Based on the kids behavior, violence and emotional abuse seems to be accepted and encouraged.

* Shari and Chad have a strange relationship. He calls her "love". She photographs him "cuddling" with his girlfriend for her parents. She wants to marry him.....how is this considered normal?

* Is it a control thing to make your kids go without proper shoes/clothes/food? Or is Ruby just that mentally disturbed?

[HelloSweetie]

* Is it a control thing to make your kids go without proper shoes/clothes/food? Or is Ruby just that mentally disturbed?

With that family it is 100% a control thing. When you tow the line and please mother, you get whatever you want. If you expect her to do things, then you do without. It’s grooming them to please.


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[natalka81]

^ That is so sad. And so f$%#ed up. I kinda hope you're wrong...

[Namm]

If they only want him at school with a parent or not at all, bets about how long until he gets kicked out & how they cover it up? They may be paying a hefty price for private school but even those schools have limits (& honor codes). Both the boys in that family need a lot of help,but their parents need to open their eyes first. I'm still floored at Kevin's lack of involvement /investment in their children's education, he is so checked out/detached, it's disappointing. Smh...


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There are no excuses for Kevin's lack of involvement but I wonder if Ruby fights him when he tries or has in the past. Some jokes have been flying around in the vlogs where Kevin has said that he does not want to get Ruby angry or do something that would aggravate her, which reminds me of Bonnie. Ruby might be more scary than we can imagine when angry because the kids and Kevin keep exposing that side of her. .

[f4k_oyevey]

I was a little taken aback when Ruby was filming herself blabbing at the kitchen table & you hear a crash and she instantly rage yelled at Russell for how he put a glass in the sink and a look of disgust on her face.

Yes, it looked like Russell was being a bit of a brat about it too, but out of nowhere you can see the rage button click on. I watched it a few times to see if I was over reacting. I don't think I was, but Ruby sure seems to.

This, combined with Eve saying the day before saying that she didn't want Ruby to get mad or yell is telling.

They were accused of being fake before..they have been keeping it pretty real these last few vlogs.




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[skrt09]

I cannot stand this family anymore. The last few videos have really done it for me. I am glad that people are starting to see how arrogant Kevin is. I've always wanted to mention it but I've held back. Shari and Chad's "I'm better than everyone else" attitude comes directly from him. He can be quite disrespectful to Ruby, and he encourages the kids to walk all over her too.

Ruby is no angel herself, however. She definitely seems cold and harsh toward her children. When she tries to nurture them it comes across as fake. Also, I have to wonder why she acts like such an airhead on camera. There are moments when she shows some intelligence, but most of the time she seems so ignorant of everything. Her super-strict yet hands-off parenting style must be very confusing for the kids.

Shari says she's not sheltered because "Youtube exposes her to different types of people." I've heard Ruby and Bonnie say the same thing. No, they read comments and block the people who don't agree with them. As long as they only interact with people who share their Mormon "standards" (as the Tannerites would say), they will be sheltered. Shari plans on going to BYU now. The cycle will continue.

And don't get me started on Chad and Abby's attitudes lately.

[Kjr123]

I love that Shari considers herself cultured. No, sweetheart. Not by a long shot. Because you’re on youtube, does not mean you’ve seen all there is to see, and know all there is to know. I’m twice her age and do not live in a religious bubble and do not consider myself at all cultured tho I’ve see a lot more of life than she has. Go out and explore the world. Watch movies that have sex and drugs and hardships. Open your eyes to the world. Have a beer, learn there’s more to life than marriage and kids at 18. I feel so bad for her. She’s so sheltered she doesn’t even realize she’s sheltered.

[LilaRose]

I love that Shari considers herself cultured. No, sweetheart. Not by a long shot. Because you’re on youtube, does not mean you’ve seen all there is to see, and know all there is to know. I’m twice her age and do not live in a religious bubble and do not consider myself at all cultured tho I’ve see a lot more of life than she has. Go out and explore the world. Watch movies that have sex and drugs and hardships. Open your eyes to the world. Have a beer, learn there’s more to life than marriage and kids at 18. I feel so bad for her. She’s so sheltered she doesn’t even realize she’s sheltered.

I really don't think watching movies that have sex, drugs and hardships will make a person any more cultured. But what about helping out in a soup kitchen? Volunteering in a homeless shelter? Meeting people who have a different religion, drug addicts, refugees.... And not as a one time youtube/instagram event, but on a regular basis. Not for social media, but to get to know the real world and actually do something genuinely good. Would be a good thing for all of the griffiths girls and their families. They all pretend to be holier than holy, but actually do nothing good in this world, just live their privileged, sheltered and very self centered lives.

[staceymj]

I love that Shari considers herself cultured. No, sweetheart. Not by a long shot. Because you’re on youtube, does not mean you’ve seen all there is to see, and know all there is to know. I’m twice her age and do not live in a religious bubble and do not consider myself at all cultured tho I’ve see a lot more of life than she has. Go out and explore the world. Watch movies that have sex and drugs and hardships. Open your eyes to the world. Have a beer, learn there’s more to life than marriage and kids at 18. I feel so bad for her. She’s so sheltered she doesn’t even realize she’s sheltered.

I really don't think watching movies that have sex, drugs and hardships will make a person any more cultured. But what about helping out in a soup kitchen? Volunteering in a homeless shelter? Meeting people who have a different religion, drug addicts, refugees.... And not as a one time youtube/instagram event, but on a regular basis. Not for social media, but to get to know the real world and actually do something genuinely good. Would be a good thing for all of the griffiths girls and their families. They all pretend to be holier than holy, but actually do nothing good in this world, just live their privileged, sheltered and very self centered lives.

I agree, I hope that when she’s older she travels a lot and sees more of the world because she can say she’s cultured until she’s blue in the face but until she steps outside of their Mormon bubble in Utah I won’t believe it.


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[lmmomSD]

What is with all the "bow sight" threads?

Guess it's better than porn spam, but still..


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[PBandJelly]

interesting that Ruby is in Vegas right now on the Bollie photoshoot with Bonnie and Ellie... Ruby just doesn't seem to be all that close to those sisters. Ruby tries to fit in to Bonnie and Ellie's craziness but she always seems out of place. I have to wonder if her invite was motivated by the potential views/new subscribers Bonnie and Ellie could get by having Ruby post a "Bonnie Photoshoot adventure" vlog...

Ruby's views in the past few weeks are through the roof. Jared and Ellie must be green with envy... I think it is fair to say that at no point in their YT career have they seen the success that Ruby has...