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JaJa wrote:
luna nova wrote:In relation to the CPS, I know that in Denmark you can report somebody, also if you chose to be anonymous (either by phone, or online). Should they receive several other reports regarding the same persons, they would at least pay a protocol visit.
Also, I would like to know what your thoughts are in relation to an adult threatening children & animals, who obviously can't defend themselves. Even when "joking"? Hereby I think about A. when she uses her infamous "If you do/don't...I swear I will...you". Personally, I find it disturbing that A&J find it hilarious.

It doesn't have to be ONLY psychical abuse for somebody to be reported to CPS.

Familiar much ANNA & GOFUS???

Emotional abuse

This occurs when an adult's behaviour towards a child happens repeatedly, and causes the child to feel frightened, ashamed, upset, alone and have low self-worth.

Such behaviours include:

-constantly criticising, teasing, belittling or 'putting down' a child
-constantly shouting and screaming at a child
-ignoring and refusing to help or accept a child
-calling a child by degrading names and shaming the child in front of others
-threatening to physically punish a child or abandon them
-exposing a child to domestic violence
-encouraging a child to engage in criminal activities
-constantly ignoring a child and refusing to show affection
-withdrawing love or threatening to do so.

When children experience these behaviours, they feel unlovable, worthless and lack self-confidence. They are likely to have trouble forming positive relationships with other children or adults. Emotional abuse also occurs when a child is being physically or sexually abused.

Neglect

This occurs when a parent is unable or unwilling to provide for a child so that the child can develop normally. A child can be neglected in the following ways:

-when a child does not have enough food, clothing, is not clean, does not have a place to live
-when a child is not provided with the necessary medical, dental and/or other health care. This includes not providing medication for health conditions
-when young children are left alone, not adequately supervised, or when parents fail to remove dangerous things from their environment or do not watch them closely, particularly in dangerous circumstances
-constantly ignoring a child's need for attention and how they feel or failing to spend time and listen to a child
-failing to send a child to school and/or not providing them with learning opportunities
-abandoning a child (by not organising the necessary care for them).
This is an insult to kids who are ACTUALLY being abused. Half of the things you highlighted aren't even true for J&A. I have SEEN a REAL CPS case, where the ministry got involved in a shaken baby case and the father got away with it - even after ALL the phone calls from multiple ppl who were complaining about them. There are REAL cases of abuse where kids are sent to their rooms without dinner, then raped by a parent, beat and locked in a closet, sent to school with no warm clothes, yelled and screamed at constantly all day, having to live with a parent(s) who abuse drugs. It is an insult to compare the treatment of E to any of the real kids who have to deal with real abuse EVERY SINGLE DAY.

If you truly believe E is in trouble, then make the call yourself, otherwise, you're enabling them and watching the so-called "abuse" go on and not doing anything about it.

Hate on me all you want, hate on J&A for not being smart parents, but do not say that CPS needs to be involved. Don't clog up the system for real kids with real problems who need real help.

I am not saying that the abuse is happening, but why are you trying to say that since there are cases of extreme abuse, lesser abuse doesn't matter?
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JaJa wrote:@sand & water -- because previous posters have mentioned that someone should call CPS on them

No one has to agree with what I'm saying, nor do I have to agree with you. I have a right to be here as much as anyone else.Don't like what i have to say, ignore or block me. it's that easy.



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Thank you sand and water, and thank you to everyone else for your warm welcomes. I'm happy to finally be a part of the conversation instead of just yelling at my screen :D
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memememe wrote:You mean wait until one of the dogs actually does bite her and then it warrants concern?
look, a dog biting a child is NOT a reason to take a child away from it's parents. You may not agree with it, but it just does not happen. Do you know how many kids would be taken away from their parents because a dog bit them?? it does not happen. Just like I don't agree that the person I know still gets to live with his son after causing him to have severe brain damage. It is not cut and dry the way you want to believe it is.
No one here said anything about her being taken from them and you have to be reasonable and apply common sense to the comments here, Jaja.

A dog biting a child, there's so many factors to this that you cannot make a blanket statement that a child bitten by a dog should be removed from their home - that's why NO ONE here has said that Emilia should be removed. If a kid is bitten by a dog by accident e.g. an over enthusiastic toy / treat grab nipping them etc then obviously that extreme action isn't warranted.

A&J display a blatant disregard to Emilia's safety on a daily basis, crap like leaving her swinging majority of the day or propped on the couch like a discarded doll. They treat her like another puppy and don't establish a clear hierarchy between themselves & Emilia with the dogs. That's all people are meaning.
Quit being such a drama queen and read what people actually write instead of misconstruing and attacking everything that's posted.
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flipflop wrote:Well done Rocky for being able to discipline your dog's and putting your child' s safety before them. You must have really well behaved dogs :)
I think people forget that all dogs are 98% wolves and yes they do need human interaction but with this they also need discipline, if not you get a wild animal, aka, Anna and Jonathan' s dog's!
As you can tell Jaja is a bit of a drama queen, I find it quite entertaining actually :)
Thank you. Yes, they are very well behaved, but I do no take any chances with children until they can give them basic commands, like sit, stay, down or no.
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did anyone notice the worry on Emma's face when Emilia was crying at MSDs? She looked like she was genuinely concerned.
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Do they not realize how dangerous it is to have her in their bed alone with that huge blanket over her all the way up to her chin? Making reference to today's vlog within the first two minutes.

I find it so odd that her mom and sister's don't tell her anything. Why don't they find it weird that their sister /daughter doesn't change her own child's diaper? My family would find that so weird. I get the feeling that they are all scared to tell her anything so they probably just talk behind her back about what a tool she is.

Also, when Jonathan says "you gonna feed her?" and Anna shrugs like eh I don't know who cares.
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JaJa wrote:
luna nova wrote:In relation to the CPS, I know that in Denmark you can report somebody, also if you chose to be anonymous (either by phone, or online). Should they receive several other reports regarding the same persons, they would at least pay a protocol visit.
Also, I would like to know what your thoughts are in relation to an adult threatening children & animals, who obviously can't defend themselves. Even when "joking"? Hereby I think about A. when she uses her infamous "If you do/don't...I swear I will...you". Personally, I find it disturbing that A&J find it hilarious.

It doesn't have to be ONLY psychical abuse for somebody to be reported to CPS.

Familiar much ANNA & GOFUS???

Emotional abuse

This occurs when an adult's behaviour towards a child happens repeatedly, and causes the child to feel frightened, ashamed, upset, alone and have low self-worth.

Such behaviours include:

-constantly criticising, teasing, belittling or 'putting down' a child
-constantly shouting and screaming at a child
-ignoring and refusing to help or accept a child
-calling a child by degrading names and shaming the child in front of others
-threatening to physically punish a child or abandon them
-exposing a child to domestic violence
-encouraging a child to engage in criminal activities
-constantly ignoring a child and refusing to show affection
-withdrawing love or threatening to do so.

When children experience these behaviours, they feel unlovable, worthless and lack self-confidence. They are likely to have trouble forming positive relationships with other children or adults. Emotional abuse also occurs when a child is being physically or sexually abused.

Neglect

This occurs when a parent is unable or unwilling to provide for a child so that the child can develop normally. A child can be neglected in the following ways:

-when a child does not have enough food, clothing, is not clean, does not have a place to live
-when a child is not provided with the necessary medical, dental and/or other health care. This includes not providing medication for health conditions
-when young children are left alone, not adequately supervised, or when parents fail to remove dangerous things from their environment or do not watch them closely, particularly in dangerous circumstances
-constantly ignoring a child's need for attention and how they feel or failing to spend time and listen to a child
-failing to send a child to school and/or not providing them with learning opportunities
-abandoning a child (by not organising the necessary care for them).
This is an insult to kids who are ACTUALLY being abused. Half of the things you highlighted aren't even true for J&A. I have SEEN a REAL CPS case, where the ministry got involved in a shaken baby case and the father got away with it - even after ALL the phone calls from multiple ppl who were complaining about them. There are REAL cases of abuse where kids are sent to their rooms without dinner, then raped by a parent, beat and locked in a closet, sent to school with no warm clothes, yelled and screamed at constantly all day, having to live with a parent(s) who abuse drugs. It is an insult to compare the treatment of E to any of the real kids who have to deal with real abuse EVERY SINGLE DAY.

If you truly believe E is in trouble, then make the call yourself, otherwise, you're enabling them and watching the so-called "abuse" go on and not doing anything about it.

Hate on me all you want, hate on J&A for not being smart parents, but do not say that CPS needs to be involved. Don't clog up the system for real kids with real problems who need real help.
This isn't the abuse olympics, just because there are other kids who are abused more severely (which I am not in any way saying they don't need or deserve help) doesn't mean that Emilia isn't being treated poorly and deserves to have her parents either get the attention, information or whatever help they need to ensure that their daughter is SAFE, HEALTHY, AND HAPPY.

And I was abused and nobody did a goddamn thing about it and I wish they had. No, my abuse was not THE MOST SEVERE CASE EVER, but that doesn't mean I didn't need someone to be my advocate.
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JaJa wrote:
memememe wrote:You mean wait until one of the dogs actually does bite her and then it warrants concern?
look, a dog biting a child is NOT a reason to take a child away from it's parents. You may not agree with it, but it just does not happen. Do you know how many kids would be taken away from their parents because a dog bit them?? it does not happen. Just like I don't agree that the person I know still gets to live with his son after causing him to have severe brain damage. It is not cut and dry the way you want to believe it is.
It's a reason to remove the animals from the home to protect the child. And if the parents won't do that themselves, somebody else should be stepping in to force their hand.
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Suntropics wrote:Do they not realize how dangerous it is to have her in their bed alone with that huge blanket over her all the way up to her chin? Making reference to today's vlog within the first two minutes.

I find it so odd that her mom and sister's don't tell her anything. Why don't they find it weird that their sister /daughter doesn't change her own child's diaper? My family would find that so weird. I get the feeling that they are all scared to tell her anything so they probably just talk behind her back about what a tool she is.

Also, when Jonathan says "you gonna feed her?" and Anna shrugs like eh I don't know who cares.

yes that's exactly what I think from the way Emma reacted to emilias cries. the first thing she did was look at her mum and gave a sad face
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E is on the track of being an abused infant. I don't think it should take an accident for this to be looked into more by the CPS. Will E have to fall off the sofa and be bitten by dogs? Will she have to suffocate under the duvet first?

I have to do studies on a bunch of shithead parents who show all the signs of abusing their kids but because they don't abuse their kid in front of me or tell me about it, I can't do anything.
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stefkova, oktober & Mr. Jiminy :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hee:
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Suntropics wrote:Do they not realize how dangerous it is to have her in their bed alone with that huge blanket over her all the way up to her chin? Making reference to today's vlog within the first two minutes.

I find it so odd that her mom and sister's don't tell her anything. Why don't they find it weird that their sister /daughter doesn't change her own child's diaper? My family would find that so weird. I get the feeling that they are all scared to tell her anything so they probably just talk behind her back about what a tool she is.

Also, when Jonathan says "you gonna feed her?" and Anna shrugs like eh I don't know who cares.
Yes! i caught that blew my mind WTF is wrong with this chick -o! except that she should have stuck to her guns andNEVER had a child! SMH! 2 mental cases with an infant! :x
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Suntropics wrote:Do they not realize how dangerous it is to have her in their bed alone with that huge blanket over her all the way up to her chin? Making reference to today's vlog within the first two minutes.

I find it so odd that her mom and sister's don't tell her anything. Why don't they find it weird that their sister /daughter doesn't change her own child's diaper? My family would find that so weird. I get the feeling that they are all scared to tell her anything so they probably just talk behind her back about what a tool she is.

Also, when Jonathan says "you gonna feed her?" and Anna shrugs like eh I don't know who cares.
I'm pretty sure her mum talks to her, tries to give her advice, but I am soooo sure Anna just gets bitchy, makes her lip thingy and behaves like a 10year old. She does't take constructive critic from ANYBODY!
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Looks to me like everyone tip toes around Anna. Even Jofus seems to do this. I'd say she's a right strop if you dare cross her.
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magicdragon wrote:Looks to me like everyone tip toes around Anna. Even Jofus seems to do this. I'd say she's a right strop if you dare cross her.
Yep. Totally batshit insane.
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luna nova wrote:stefkova, oktober & Mr. Jiminy :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hee:

omg I just saw it. GOOD JOB GIRLS :love2: :love2: :love2:

and saw this too haha: julienecrg hace 7 minutos
They also gave to charity if I'm not mistaken. Good people with good hearts
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lemontree wrote:
luna nova wrote:stefkova, oktober & Mr. Jiminy :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hee:

omg I just saw it. GOOD JOB GIRLS :love2: :love2: :love2:

and saw this too haha: julienecrg hace 7 minutos
They also gave to charity if I'm not mistaken. Good people with good hearts
looooooooooooooool

Yeah - that charity being the Jofungus lunch run fund ;)
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Do they know nothing about SIDS?! The first two minuets made me have anxiety I can't believe they think its OK to have her in the bed surrounded by pillows and a huge fluffy duvet up to her chin unsupervised.
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