Where did you see this? I wanna know what she looks like.Notsure wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:56 pm Holy Moly. Definitely a resemblance to abi. Such a weird event tho I’m still shocked. I’m just more bummed they never really brought it up and just kept quiet about it especially since its so public. Kinda like the whole ctfxc and then shaytards and bfvsgf. This should blow over tho and not last long Atleast they talked about it now. I’m just like wow the whole married then had a love child when he decided to not be married. Unless it’s more of I wasn’t ready to be married and still wanted to have fun and then love child happened.
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He was actually referencing Tattle Life. This site has literally NOTHING compared to whats over there.blessedunrest wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:17 pm He didn't mention the name of the message board but we all know he was talking about us here....calling us out along with Priscilla for criticising family vlogs especially the mothers + trashing us as garbage people.
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lazydazey wrote:Can someone clear this up for me, Who is summer? Like where did they find her and how did she become basically a family member?
When hearing about the "love child" I automatically assumed it was her, mostly because I have no idea of her age.
I think they met her at surf for autism and they just kept inviting her over to hangout and go places with them as abbies friend but I’m sure it was for the parents not Abby. She seemed to be able to handle and babysit her
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Thank you! I have only been watching for a few months but once i realized she wasn't family i was confused, lol. She deff babysits her, imo. But weirdly she fits right in with the family, lol.Ellaw46 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:11 amlazydazey wrote:Can someone clear this up for me, Who is summer? Like where did they find her and how did she become basically a family member?
When hearing about the "love child" I automatically assumed it was her, mostly because I have no idea of her age.
I think they met her at surf for autism and they just kept inviting her over to hangout and go places with them as abbies friend but I’m sure it was for the parents not Abby. She seemed to be able to handle and babysit her
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I’m super curious to what she looks like too. I couldn’t find any socialsOthegreat22 wrote:Where did you see this? I wanna know what she looks like.Notsure wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:56 pm Holy Moly. Definitely a resemblance to abi. Such a weird event tho I’m still shocked. I’m just more bummed they never really brought it up and just kept quiet about it especially since its so public. Kinda like the whole ctfxc and then shaytards and bfvsgf. This should blow over tho and not last long Atleast they talked about it now. I’m just like wow the whole married then had a love child when he decided to not be married. Unless it’s more of I wasn’t ready to be married and still wanted to have fun and then love child happened.
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Someone made a video about the family in great detail. The comments section is a dumpster fire
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Just found the site and finally read all 38 pages!
He's really overreacting I think, was he specifically talking about this thread?
He's really overreacting I think, was he specifically talking about this thread?
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Ngl, LGM is worse than some of the obsessives you find on this website and that's saying something.Othegreat22 wrote:Someone made a video about the family in great detail. The comments section is a dumpster fire
Nevermind youtubers embarrassing their kids, I feel for this woman's kids if people find out.
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Just got to watching their Disney vlog....I remember going to Disney as a child and being thoroughly overwhelmed by the crowds and the noises, all the motion and sounds of the rides. Can't imagine how Abby might've felt. Barely a few minutes in and Asa is like "she's signing toilet because she wants to go somewhere quiet" like no kidding? Honestly? I get trying to let Abby out of her comfort zone and getting her to experience things but she does not need so much unnecessary stress. I get annoyed just listening to Asa talk, imagine spending Disney with him.
Speaking of which, their video about Asa's other child was so annoying. They basically prattled on some nonsense about not wanting to be married back then and then started talking about "haters" and whatnot. Couldn't even focus on what they were saying half the time. I didn't watch the whole thing. Most of it was Asa speaking patronising towards everyone who "discovered" his secret.
I'm also quite curious about the lady and her daughter, but I'm not going to go searching. I just hope they're doing well. Wonder if she knows about her "dad's" channel though....
Speaking of which, their video about Asa's other child was so annoying. They basically prattled on some nonsense about not wanting to be married back then and then started talking about "haters" and whatnot. Couldn't even focus on what they were saying half the time. I didn't watch the whole thing. Most of it was Asa speaking patronising towards everyone who "discovered" his secret.
I'm also quite curious about the lady and her daughter, but I'm not going to go searching. I just hope they're doing well. Wonder if she knows about her "dad's" channel though....
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If her mother hasn't let her have contact with him I doubt she even knows about the channel being run by her father, if she's ever come across it. I'm more curious as to what the mother must think about the channel, the family, and the money. This shit show will implode one day and I hope they are all out of the media light when it does.Butterfly_ wrote:Just got to watching their Disney vlog....I remember going to Disney as a child and being thoroughly overwhelmed by the crowds and the noises, all the motion and sounds of the rides. Can't imagine how Abby might've felt. Barely a few minutes in and Asa is like "she's signing toilet because she wants to go somewhere quiet" like no kidding? Honestly? I get trying to let Abby out of her comfort zone and getting her to experience things but she does not need so much unnecessary stress. I get annoyed just listening to Asa talk, imagine spending Disney with him.
Speaking of which, their video about Asa's other child was so annoying. They basically prattled on some nonsense about not wanting to be married back then and then started talking about "haters" and whatnot. Couldn't even focus on what they were saying half the time. I didn't watch the whole thing. Most of it was Asa speaking patronising towards everyone who "discovered" his secret.
I'm also quite curious about the lady and her daughter, but I'm not going to go searching. I just hope they're doing well. Wonder if she knows about her "dad's" channel though....
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I will never understand why people who videotape their lives for the world to see say they have a right to their privacy. They are selling their lives and choosing this public lifestyle. I do not condone anyone e-mailing their kids or outing him just to be mean but this is the way they choose to make their living. The fact that Asa has a 3rd child is not something I will judge him for, whatever happened is their business but what I will never understand is why he is choosing to have nothing to do with his own daughter. He is the biological father and has the right to know his daughter. For him to not want to know her and be in her life is something I do judge him for. I lost a lot of respect for him not because he had a daughter and hid it from his viewers (that's not something I fault him for) but because he knows he has a daughter and has nothing to do with her.
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Exactly. The best vlogs are finding a niche to concentrate on (beauty, grocery hauls(from Costco or Trader Joe's are really popular), fashion, unboxing, tech, playing around with scammers on the phone etc), but those take time to built an audience, if it ever even does. For some reason vlogging your day to day life ESPECIALLY if having a large family gets tons of views and can grew rapidly or in Asa case using Abbie to gain viewers.Bollie_Dollie_4_Life wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:54 pm I will never understand why people who videotape their lives for the world to see say they have a right to their privacy. They are selling their lives and choosing this public lifestyle. I do not condone anyone e-mailing their kids or outing him just to be mean but this is the way they choose to make their living. The fact that Asa has a 3rd child is not something I will judge him for, whatever happened is their business but what I will never understand is why he is choosing to have nothing to do with his own daughter. He is the biological father and has the right to know his daughter. For him to not want to know her and be in her life is something I do judge him for. I lost a lot of respect for him not because he had a daughter and hid it from his viewers (that's not something I fault him for) but because he knows he has a daughter and has nothing to do with her.
and yeah I loved this family cause they didn't come off like most other YouTube families - always shopping, always on vacation, always spending and spending and spending money., but him hiding he had a daughter is really a douche move. He could have mentioned it once and that's it. The backstory is private.
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Gosh, I haven't been posting but I've been lurking and wow... I could go into a whole nother post about my feelings on how he's treating his other daughter... but for now I want to talk about a few other things
So they spend most of the new vlog talking about how they have Abbie do chores around the house. Which is fine, but they seem to still have this idea that these chores will lead to her being independent or semi-independent one day. Now I don't really have an issue with her putting her toys away or organizing the pillows because those seem to be within her abilities. What I do have an issue with is how they keep having her do the dishes and the groceries and sweeping etc.
I don't like to be pessimistic, I try to see the potential in every child. But I've been watching these vlogs for 3? 4? years now. I've seen little to no improvement in Abbie doing these complex, multi-step chores. I'm sorry to say this but I think having her do chores like that is only causing her distress, and that time would be better spent working on activities that increase her quality of life, like one on one play, at-home music therapy, or working on her attention span.
Another issue with these chores is that there is no real end goal here. I've been thinking about it recently, and even if she were to somehow master these chores without prompting, she would never be able to do them safely. Doing the dishes is not safe because of her poor coordination and low muscle tone. She would always need to be carefully supervised because she could easily smash a plate on the floor, or drop a knife on her foot. Groceries are not safe because of her compulsive eating and pica. Someone would need to guide her through each step, keeping her from eating the food. And it seems to cause her a lot of distress handling that food knowing she cannot eat it.
Lastly, and I think I've talked about this before, but she does not understand the purpose of these chores. A huge part of working on chores is that you help the child understand how it benefits them and/or the people around them. I don't think Abbie is able to make that connection, and I'm not sure if she ever will. She doesn't understand that cold food will spoil if left outside the fridge. She doesn't understand the difference between a clean dish vs. a dirty dish. She doesn't understand that the vacuum sucks up dirt on the floor, and why dirt on the floor is bad. These are meaningless activities to her. She will never do these activities effectively because she doesn't understand the goal of them, and she will never feel the need to initiate them independently. I would love for Abbie to prove me wrong about this, but sadly I don't think she will.
So they spend most of the new vlog talking about how they have Abbie do chores around the house. Which is fine, but they seem to still have this idea that these chores will lead to her being independent or semi-independent one day. Now I don't really have an issue with her putting her toys away or organizing the pillows because those seem to be within her abilities. What I do have an issue with is how they keep having her do the dishes and the groceries and sweeping etc.
I don't like to be pessimistic, I try to see the potential in every child. But I've been watching these vlogs for 3? 4? years now. I've seen little to no improvement in Abbie doing these complex, multi-step chores. I'm sorry to say this but I think having her do chores like that is only causing her distress, and that time would be better spent working on activities that increase her quality of life, like one on one play, at-home music therapy, or working on her attention span.
Another issue with these chores is that there is no real end goal here. I've been thinking about it recently, and even if she were to somehow master these chores without prompting, she would never be able to do them safely. Doing the dishes is not safe because of her poor coordination and low muscle tone. She would always need to be carefully supervised because she could easily smash a plate on the floor, or drop a knife on her foot. Groceries are not safe because of her compulsive eating and pica. Someone would need to guide her through each step, keeping her from eating the food. And it seems to cause her a lot of distress handling that food knowing she cannot eat it.
Lastly, and I think I've talked about this before, but she does not understand the purpose of these chores. A huge part of working on chores is that you help the child understand how it benefits them and/or the people around them. I don't think Abbie is able to make that connection, and I'm not sure if she ever will. She doesn't understand that cold food will spoil if left outside the fridge. She doesn't understand the difference between a clean dish vs. a dirty dish. She doesn't understand that the vacuum sucks up dirt on the floor, and why dirt on the floor is bad. These are meaningless activities to her. She will never do these activities effectively because she doesn't understand the goal of them, and she will never feel the need to initiate them independently. I would love for Abbie to prove me wrong about this, but sadly I don't think she will.
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I unfortunately agree with you.bringmepie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:55 am Gosh, I haven't been posting but I've been lurking and wow... I could go into a whole nother post about my feelings on how he's treating his other daughter... but for now I want to talk about a few other things
So they spend most of the new vlog talking about how they have Abbie do chores around the house. Which is fine, but they seem to still have this idea that these chores will lead to her being independent or semi-independent one day. Now I don't really have an issue with her putting her toys away or organizing the pillows because those seem to be within her abilities. What I do have an issue with is how they keep having her do the dishes and the groceries and sweeping etc.
I don't like to be pessimistic, I try to see the potential in every child. But I've been watching these vlogs for 3? 4? years now. I've seen little to no improvement in Abbie doing these complex, multi-step chores. I'm sorry to say this but I think having her do chores like that is only causing her distress, and that time would be better spent working on activities that increase her quality of life, like one on one play, at-home music therapy, or working on her attention span.
Another issue with these chores is that there is no real end goal here. I've been thinking about it recently, and even if she were to somehow master these chores without prompting, she would never be able to do them safely. Doing the dishes is not safe because of her poor coordination and low muscle tone. She would always need to be carefully supervised because she could easily smash a plate on the floor, or drop a knife on her foot. Groceries are not safe because of her compulsive eating and pica. Someone would need to guide her through each step, keeping her from eating the food. And it seems to cause her a lot of distress handling that food knowing she cannot eat it.
Lastly, and I think I've talked about this before, but she does not understand the purpose of these chores. A huge part of working on chores is that you help the child understand how it benefits them and/or the people around them. I don't think Abbie is able to make that connection, and I'm not sure if she ever will. She doesn't understand that cold food will spoil if left outside the fridge. She doesn't understand the difference between a clean dish vs. a dirty dish. She doesn't understand that the vacuum sucks up dirt on the floor, and why dirt on the floor is bad. These are meaningless activities to her. She will never do these activities effectively because she doesn't understand the goal of them, and she will never feel the need to initiate them independently. I would love for Abbie to prove me wrong about this, but sadly I don't think she will.
I don't think they ever tell her why she needs to do them. It's like they are treating her like a circus animal or a pet. Is it because just because she is nonverbal?
Also she is smarter than what they think she is.
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I don't think she is smarter than they think.Othegreat22 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:15 pmI unfortunately agree with you.bringmepie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:55 am Gosh, I haven't been posting but I've been lurking and wow... I could go into a whole nother post about my feelings on how he's treating his other daughter... but for now I want to talk about a few other things
So they spend most of the new vlog talking about how they have Abbie do chores around the house. Which is fine, but they seem to still have this idea that these chores will lead to her being independent or semi-independent one day. Now I don't really have an issue with her putting her toys away or organizing the pillows because those seem to be within her abilities. What I do have an issue with is how they keep having her do the dishes and the groceries and sweeping etc.
I don't like to be pessimistic, I try to see the potential in every child. But I've been watching these vlogs for 3? 4? years now. I've seen little to no improvement in Abbie doing these complex, multi-step chores. I'm sorry to say this but I think having her do chores like that is only causing her distress, and that time would be better spent working on activities that increase her quality of life, like one on one play, at-home music therapy, or working on her attention span.
Another issue with these chores is that there is no real end goal here. I've been thinking about it recently, and even if she were to somehow master these chores without prompting, she would never be able to do them safely. Doing the dishes is not safe because of her poor coordination and low muscle tone. She would always need to be carefully supervised because she could easily smash a plate on the floor, or drop a knife on her foot. Groceries are not safe because of her compulsive eating and pica. Someone would need to guide her through each step, keeping her from eating the food. And it seems to cause her a lot of distress handling that food knowing she cannot eat it.
Lastly, and I think I've talked about this before, but she does not understand the purpose of these chores. A huge part of working on chores is that you help the child understand how it benefits them and/or the people around them. I don't think Abbie is able to make that connection, and I'm not sure if she ever will. She doesn't understand that cold food will spoil if left outside the fridge. She doesn't understand the difference between a clean dish vs. a dirty dish. She doesn't understand that the vacuum sucks up dirt on the floor, and why dirt on the floor is bad. These are meaningless activities to her. She will never do these activities effectively because she doesn't understand the goal of them, and she will never feel the need to initiate them independently. I would love for Abbie to prove me wrong about this, but sadly I don't think she will.
I don't think they ever tell her why she needs to do them. It's like they are treating her like a circus animal or a pet. Is it because just because she is nonverbal?
Also she is smarter than what they think she is.
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I have never white knighted on a gossip site in my life but I genuinely am curious why so many people here *hate* this family. Like to the point of doxing his baby mama and other daughter? Emailing his son?
That’s not just snarking and gossiping that’s literally stalking.
So what’s everyone’s reason for disliking this family?
The fact that they make videos showing Abbie? ABA therapy? They are such a nice family and I cry every time i watch them because I feel so bad for poor Abbie. It must be so hard living and not understanding so much of what is going on around you. I don’t know how people can not feel sorry for them all....
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That’s not just snarking and gossiping that’s literally stalking.
So what’s everyone’s reason for disliking this family?
The fact that they make videos showing Abbie? ABA therapy? They are such a nice family and I cry every time i watch them because I feel so bad for poor Abbie. It must be so hard living and not understanding so much of what is going on around you. I don’t know how people can not feel sorry for them all....
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This isn’t the site that doxxed her. I was a fan until the truth came out about his daughter. It’s shown me a different side of him. He’s a man that was willing to walk out on his wife and young son only to return when he found out the grass wasn’t greener. He’s also a man more than willing to advertise that he has no interest in even looking up his other daughter. She has a right to a father even if her mother didn’t want him to be. But also, why didn’t she want him to be?LexiRae wrote:I have never white knighted on a gossip site in my life but I genuinely am curious why so many people here *hate* this family. Like to the point of doxing his baby mama and other daughter? Emailing his son?
That’s not just snarking and gossiping that’s literally stalking.
So what’s everyone’s reason for disliking this family?
The fact that they make videos showing Abbie? ABA therapy? They are such a nice family and I cry every time i watch them because I feel so bad for poor Abbie. It must be so hard living and not understanding so much of what is going on around you. I don’t know how people can not feel sorry for them all....
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Making your life public when you have a huge skeleton in your closet and where your child could see you being an excellent father to her special needs half sister on a daily basis is selfish imo. So I was a fan, but now I think Asa is a jerk.
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Sorry I wasn’t saying this specific site was the doxxing site, I just meant that a lot of people here hate him and I wanted to know why.HelloSweetie wrote:This isn’t the site that doxxed her. I was a fan until the truth came out about his daughter. It’s shown me a different side of him. He’s a man that was willing to walk out on his wife and young son only to return when he found out the grass wasn’t greener. He’s also a man more than willing to advertise that he has no interest in even looking up his other daughter. She has a right to a father even if her mother didn’t want him to be. But also, why didn’t she want him to be?LexiRae wrote:I have never white knighted on a gossip site in my life but I genuinely am curious why so many people here *hate* this family. Like to the point of doxing his baby mama and other daughter? Emailing his son?
That’s not just snarking and gossiping that’s literally stalking.
So what’s everyone’s reason for disliking this family?
The fact that they make videos showing Abbie? ABA therapy? They are such a nice family and I cry every time i watch them because I feel so bad for poor Abbie. It must be so hard living and not understanding so much of what is going on around you. I don’t know how people can not feel sorry for them all....
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Making your life public when you have a huge skeleton in your closet and where your child could see you being an excellent father to her special needs half sister on a daily basis is selfish imo. So I was a fan, but now I think Asa is a jerk.
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I agree with what you said about Asa, he honestly does have some shocking skeletons in his closet.
The only thing that shocked me was the doxing and harassment of Isaiah, which I didn’t specifically mean happened with people here just in the general gossip community.
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Hey all! New to this thread, but not the forum. I am not a daily viewer, but it seems like Asa never drives. Is that because his license was revoked from failure to pay child support? I noticed part of his record said he drove on a suspended license before....
Also, did I hear them say they put Abbie on Seroquel? That medication is no joke. It has been prescribed to me as a last resort medication for insomnia when I can't sleep for days at a time. It basically turns me into a zombie for 24 hours. Do we know why she takes this?
Also, did I hear them say they put Abbie on Seroquel? That medication is no joke. It has been prescribed to me as a last resort medication for insomnia when I can't sleep for days at a time. It basically turns me into a zombie for 24 hours. Do we know why she takes this?
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I remember them saying at some point that Priscilla gets either carsick or anxious when she isn't driving, so she just always doesKattiness Everdeen wrote:Hey all! New to this thread, but not the forum. I am not a daily viewer, but it seems like Asa never drives. Is that because his license was revoked from failure to pay child support? I noticed part of his record said he drove on a suspended license before....
Also, did I hear them say they put Abbie on Seroquel? That medication is no joke. It has been prescribed to me as a last resort medication for insomnia when I can't sleep for days at a time. It basically turns me into a zombie for 24 hours. Do we know why she takes this?
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