2011TeenageLetsTouchAllTheThings Part 20

[geezeeuss]

We are moving shortly after the baby is born, but until then we are renting a house in the same area as where we're moving. So that we have somewhere to stay when we go down on the weekends to get our house ready (it's been a slow process). We're paying $1,200/month for a 3 bedroom 2 bath and it's less than 5 minutes from the beach. These high rents for apartments is blowing my mind!

We currently live in a 1 bedroom apartment and pay $1200 lol. It sucks.

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See? That blows my mind! Our rental is a nice sized house with a decent size back yard. I don't think I would know how to act having to put out that kind of money for an apartment!

[Rawr]

We currently live in a 1 bedroom apartment and pay $1200 lol. It sucks.

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See? That blows my mind! Our rental is a nice sized house with a decent size back yard. I don't think I would know how to act having to put out that kind of money for an apartment![/quote]

And I wouldn't know how to act paying 1,200 for a house. I would think there has to be something wrong with it and run the other way lol.

You also have to think about the income difference too though. We get paid a lot more here in NYC/NJ or even DC than people in like the south or Midwest. I remember looking up starting salaries in other states when researching careers and I couldn't believe how low some states were

[Jeniusm]

Oh good, by the looks of it Vanessa has bought another pet that she won't look after properly.

[geezeeuss]

And I wouldn't know how to act paying 1,200 for a house. I would think there has to be something wrong with it and run the other way lol.

You also have to think about the income difference too though. We get paid a lot more here in NYC/NJ or even DC than people in like the south or Midwest. I remember looking up starting salaries in other states when researching careers and I couldn't believe how low some states were

This is true.

[gypsophila]

Oh good, by the looks of it Vanessa has bought another pet that she won't look after properly.

I think she treats her 2 pets just fine. But as a whole I don't think adding another pet of any kind was/is wise. That's 3 pets with annual vet bills and incidentals. Three that may or may not get along, may or may not get ill and may need more time and attention than the family has available. I wouldn't have 3 pets in an apt. unless I was alone, or didn't have kids.

[vegasgirl23]

Oh good, by the looks of it Vanessa has bought another pet that she won't look after properly.

I think she treats her 2 pets just fine. But as a whole I don't think adding another pet of any kind was/is wise. That's 3 pets with annual vet bills and incidentals. Three that may or may not get along, may or may not get ill and may need more time and attention than the family has available. I wouldn't have 3 pets in an apt. unless I was alone, or didn't have kids.

Really she has 3 pets already( cat,dog,fish) so if she got another cat then she would have 4 pets all together

[user123_]

Does anyone know what David was going to college for? or why/when he dropped out? I just finished watching the memorial day video and I just found it so odd how someone from a kinda well off family with a college fund would choose to not go and be satisfied with his life. I know for me, my biggest motivation for getting through college is knowing I'll (hopefully) have a good, stable income and won't have to give up the luxuries I grew up with.

He was majoring in Political Science and I could be mistaken but I think he dropped out the year they moved in together so he could get 2 jobs to help pay the bills. Big mistake in my opinion. They would be better off if they put off living together so he could finish his education.

[thenightowl]

Geez, where I live you pay per pet at apartments, I just can't believe she would get another cat when they are moving into a new place and the fact that she has said that she isn't a cat person, I just don't see the point unless she is looking for something to pull in views (which is better than having another baby) but still seems like a not so great decision!

[Rawr]

Does anyone know what David was going to college for? or why/when he dropped out? I just finished watching the memorial day video and I just found it so odd how someone from a kinda well off family with a college fund would choose to not go and be satisfied with his life. I know for me, my biggest motivation for getting through college is knowing I'll (hopefully) have a good, stable income and won't have to give up the luxuries I grew up with.

He was majoring in Political Science and I could be mistaken but I think he dropped out the year they moved in together so he could get 2 jobs to help pay the bills. Big mistake in my opinion. They would be better off if they put off living together so he could finish his education.

Thank you! And yes big mistake. If they both kept going they would have graduated this year and be starting their careers right now.

[Snow White]

David didn't drop out to work two jobs for the Apartment..
He dropped out because he lacks ambition. Lets not forget he dropped out TWICE. The first time he dropped out he remained living at home, had a part time job and seen V & L rarely. You can find it in the Vlogs, I don't have the time to go back, find them & link them for everyone. It was summer time, V talks about him playing video games 24/7 and doing little of anything else.
This second time he dropped out wasn't a shock to long time viewers, please lets not victimize him.

I will admit there was more than likely some pressure from Vanessa for David to provide more. Plus, I believe their parents made it difficult for them. They were not allowed to spend the night with one another at either home (sorry but they are both adults with a child together...) Vanessa was very much a single parent to Lily, while David lived at home & went to school with little responsibility. I don't get a great Vibe from David parent's (and yes I know our knowledge is limited) I just wonder why they were so willing to throw money at him as long as he was being a dead beat dad, and nothing while he tries to provide for HIS CHILD. Before anyone twists my comment, I am NOT saying they should give him any monetary help, I understand education is important, but so is providing for his child. There are ways, plans or deals they could have made that would have allowed David to remain in some type of schooling while he stepped up as a dad..

[hannahbanana]

Didn't Vanessa try to pressure him to join the military?

[Snow White]

Didn't Vanessa try to pressure him to join the military?

I believe so. I haven't been watching her from the start, but I do remember her talking about it briefly and then the super secret trip to the recruitment office.
Again, David lacks the ambition. He doesn't strike me as the Militant type..

[Rawr]

I wasn't trying to victimize him. I think both David and Vanessa were both really immature. They had free housing and a free ride to college and accomplished nothing. David May have been an absent father but Vanessa wasnt so great either. I remember her mom helped her out a lot and she always came off as ungrateful. They have come a long way though since moving out so hopefully they will realize how important school is and get it together.

Also, on the whole thing with their parents. I don't blame them for not letting them stay the night. It's their house. Why should they have to adjust their lives to accommodate their teenagers just because they had a baby? Maybe David's parents thought if they let him stay home he could finish school and be a better provider in the long run. He still could have played an active part in Lilys life without living with her or staying the night.

[Snow White]

I wasn't trying to victimize him. I think both David and Vanessa were both really immature. They had free housing and a free ride to college and accomplished nothing. David May have been an absent father but Vanessa wasnt so great either. I remember her mom helped her out a lot and she always came off as ungrateful. They have come a long way though since moving out so hopefully they will realize how important school is and get it together.

Also, on the whole thing with their parents. I don't blame them for not letting them stay the night. It's their house. Why should they have to adjust their lives to accommodate their teenagers just because they had a baby? Maybe David's parents thought if they let him stay home he could finish school and be a better provider in the long run. He still could have played an active part in Lilys life without living with her or staying the night.

No, I agree they shouldn't have to rearrange their lives or home to accommodate their son's girlfriend, but to accommodate their grandchild? hell yes. And yes David could have been active in Lily's life while going to school but he wasn't. Furthermore, if he was going to school & working to provide for his daughter, whom he did not live with, WHEN exactly would he see her? There are only so many hours in the day!
My point was neither set of parents exactly made it easy for them to co-parent. Maybe alternating weekends would have been sufficient, maybe they wouldn't have felt the need to drop out and move out so soon.

And to add, I haven't been very active here lately, but rest assured I am no fan of Vanessa's. I do give credit when credit is due, sure. However, I just cannot stand David getting a free pass. Yes, Vanessa was a spoilt brat with her mother, that's been talked to death. But it seems to get lost along the way, just how useless David can be.

[Rawr]

I'm not trying to defend David at all. I hope I'm not coming across that way. I agree that David was useless during Lilys baby years. But I don't think his parents are to blame for it. That's his child, not theirs. He would have found a way to spend time with her if he wanted. I'm sure he could have a spare hour or two during the week and then there's always weekends. Sure it wouldn't be ideal but that's what happens when you have a child as a teen. Plus it would only be temporary. Like I said before he would have finished this year and could have provided lily with stability. She's still only 3 so she prob wouldn't wven remember not seeing him often.

My parents were teen parents and my sister and I spent a lot of time alone fending for ourselves because my parents were working and going to school. They didn't have the luxury of living with their parents or having youtube money. It took years for them to finish and become stable since working was a priority and school was a luxury. That's basically my whole point. They had so many opportunities to become stable but they're just so lazy that they're going to spend many future years struggling.

[Snow White]

I'm not trying to defend David at all. I hope I'm not coming across that way. I agree that David was useless during Lilys baby years. But I don't think his parents are to blame for it. That's his child, not theirs. He would have found a way to spend time with her if he wanted. I'm sure he could have a spare hour or two during the week and then there's always weekends. Sure it wouldn't be ideal but that's what happens when you have a child as a teen. Plus it would only be temporary. Like I said before he would have finished this year and could have provided lily with stability. She's still only 3 so she prob wouldn't wven remember not seeing him often.

My parents were teen parents and my sister and I spent a lot of time alone fending for ourselves because my parents were working and going to school. They didn't have the luxury of living with their parents or having youtube money. It took years for them to finish and become stable since working was a priority and school was a luxury. That's basically my whole point. They had so many opportunities to become stable but they're just so lazy that they're going to spend many future years struggling.

I do agree with you here, they could have made it work. They just lacked the motivation, ambition & drive. It would have meant a lot of self sacrificing, hard work and tears along the way. At the end of the day it just wasn't the route they wanted to take. I highly doubt it, but who knows they may return to school at some point and figure it out. Or they wont.

[NutraSteve]

Jesus Christ, are we back to the "David was a deadbeat" topic again?

He "lacked ambition"... Ok. Sure, whatever.

But as a "deadbeat dad", take that bullshit somewhere else. Understand the definition of a deadbeat dad, and then please come back. A deadbeat dad would still be out of the picture. A deadbeat dad would've never been there to begin with.

He might have had a stage where he was "less than par". But to say he was a "deadbeat dad" is ridiculous. How about I say Vanessa was a "deadbeat mom" for pawning Lily off on her Mom and acting immature. That's not the case though. She's young. David's young. That's all there is to it. They're young and they're learning. And in my opinion, I'm actually impressed with how both of them have done over the last year or so.

[Freaksngeeks]

David didn't drop out to work two jobs for the Apartment..
He dropped out because he lacks ambition. Lets not forget he dropped out TWICE. The first time he dropped out he remained living at home, had a part time job and seen V & L rarely. You can find it in the Vlogs, I don't have the time to go back, find them & link them for everyone. It was summer time, V talks about him playing video games 24/7 and doing little of anything else.
This second time he dropped out wasn't a shock to long time viewers, please lets not victimize him.

I will admit there was more than likely some pressure from Vanessa for David to provide more. Plus, I believe their parents made it difficult for them. They were not allowed to spend the night with one another at either home (sorry but they are both adults with a child together...) Vanessa was very much a single parent to Lily, while David lived at home & went to school with little responsibility. I don't get a great Vibe from David parent's (and yes I know our knowledge is limited) I just wonder why they were so willing to throw money at him as long as he was being a dead beat dad, and nothing while he tries to provide for HIS CHILD. Before anyone twists my comment, I am NOT saying they should give him any monetary help, I understand education is important, but so is providing for his child. There are ways, plans or deals they could have made that would have allowed David to remain in some type of schooling while he stepped up as a dad..

Yes, your correct. Vanessa said he would sit and play video games all day and not go to class.
He also tried living with his parents, and living in a dorm. I think they thought living in the dorm wasn't helping, and living at home would keep him more focused but he still didn't have the ambition.
Then they thought maybe the military.
His parents were paying for his education, and all he had to do was go to class & do the work. not a lot of people have that opportunity and he blew it. I know people who would love the opportunity to go to college but can't afford it. My parents payed for my schooling and I worked my butt off. I wasn't about to disrespect my parents and blow their money away sitting and playing video games. He will regret that one day if he hasn't already.
Being a security guard at a mall doesn't pay much.
I think his parents help him out with money. That's my opinion.
And no doubt Vanessa pressured him. Which I understand where she was coming from. He wasn't around for his child. But I've seen dads go to school, work, provide for their family, and be a good father all at the same time. I just don't think David cared for school and he was lazy.
Imo David is immature, careless, and lacks ambition. But at least he's a good father now.

[gypsophila]

Didn't Vanessa try to pressure him to join the military?

Nope, can't put that on Vanessa at all. They were both in ROTC in high school, and I believe David's brother actually went into the army or reserves. I think it is something that is done or has been done by others in David's family. I actually think it would be a good idea for him, but wonder if he could hack it. My future SIL is an army vet, and he's a very different type of personality than David. I think David is too immature still, but he is making progress. I think he will go back to school. Lots of people have to work full time while attending school--when they are fully ready to commit to a specific program and see it through. I feel that vocational school is a better choice, as opposed to what he was studying which was political science. Unless he has the family connections to be a politician I suppose?

[nobettsaboutit]

I'm wondering what apartment they moved in to. Fort Mill doesn't really have that many apartment complexes. That's good for them though. Fort Mill is a great area. But David didn't really lower his commute. Maybe by like 5-10 minutes at most? He doesn't work too far from where they live now. It used to only take me about 10 minutes to get to work when I worked there too and I lived in Fort Mill at the time too.


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