OKWe'reStillBehind: Part 9

[IloveOKLA]

Yeah, that's what they've said about marriage which is why I and others mentioned that they could get engaged and then wait a few years (or until they buy their house, whatever) before the actual wedding. Kyra clearly wants that ring.

Guess their priorities are babies and buying a house. They're going to be really busy to even enjoy the moment. I don't see the rush.

LOL no rush? Tell that to them when youtube falls thru, they run out of money and cant provide for their family and are stuck living on minimum wage barely getting by..or what about being an example for their kids? they should profit now while they still can. before their 15 mins of fame are over.

Geez..calm the eff down.Kyra has mentioned time and again about how their priorities are not similar to other regular 20 yr olds. She likes to have more kids and be with them while they grow. What's the use of a degree when she's a stay at home mom? YouTube won't stop suddenly and considering they know how it works better and are good with finance,I'm sure their future is secure.

[webbygurl626]

Uggh I'm not on here for one day and the butt buddies have invaded!


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[Midia]

Yeah, that's what they've said about marriage which is why I and others mentioned that they could get engaged and then wait a few years (or until they buy their house, whatever) before the actual wedding. Kyra clearly wants that ring.

Guess their priorities are babies and buying a house. They're going to be really busy to even enjoy the moment. I don't see the rush.

LOL no rush? Tell that to them when youtube falls thru, they run out of money and cant provide for their family and are stuck living on minimum wage barely getting by..or what about being an example for their kids? they should profit now while they still can. before their 15 mins of fame are over.

Geez..calm the eff down.Kyra has mentioned time and again about how their priorities are not similar to other regular 20 yr olds. She likes to have more kids and be with them while they grow. What's the use of a degree when she's a stay at home mom? YouTube won't stop suddenly and considering they know how it works better and are good with finance,I'm sure their future is secure.

I am sorry, I don't know how old you are but your comment about that "her priorities are not the same" and "she likes to have more kids" is ridiculous! Kids are not dolls! What is the use of a degree? Well, in case youtube stops (which let be honest, will happen one day) she will need a job that whe would obtain thanks to this degree to raise these kids she likes so much to have!! If she really wants to be a SAHM, then Oscar and her should have an aggreement that HE should have a degree anyway in something just in case but it's always better if they both have a back up plan because what happens when youtube stops and O doesn't find a job? What if OK separate? Just in case she need to have the possibility to be financially independant!
Youtube may not stop right now but seriously how do YOU know if they are good in finance and if their future is secure? I don't know that and you dn't know either!! Saving money for a house is good, yes, but a house is expensive, even if they manage to buy it, they won't have any savings, what will happen if youtube stop at that moment? They will have a house (ggod) but no savings, not job and no professional experience and degree to get a job, so what are they going to do? Ask Korina for help?? Having children is a RESPONSABILITY, you don't just have them because you "LIKE" having kids, that is a ridiculous and childish idea!! You should always have a back up plan in life ESPECIALLY when you're responsible of someone as you own children!!!
I am sorry but your comment really annoy mean and I seriously wonder your age to think that way, I LOVE children and from what I remenber I have always wanted to be a mom but did I popped out a kid at 18? NOOOO, I decided to study hard to get a degree that would allowed me to get a good job and financial stability before and now at 25, I will start my career with a confortable income and can think about having kids in the future! And in the case of Kyra and Oscar, they got pregnant young, (fine, that happens) they got lucky with youtube (good for them!) but it's high time to be adults and think about every possibilities in life, the clever move when you rely on something like youtube is to have a backup plan, the argument that "you're sure they're financially stable" is bullsh*t, you think/hope they are, that's all and when you say that I feel like you don't really know how finance works! With how much money they must earn, I can't even imagine how much taxes they pay... BTW, if you really liked them so much I don't get how you are not even a little worry about them, you just want to defend them at all cost which is not helping them but if you think that helping them means for you telling them how amazing they are, well I really don't understand you and think you are not helping them in the long term, you just make them feel better now you're just part of the problem of why preparing themselves for when youtube stops.

I really hope OK are/will be clever enough to have this backup...

[flokofloz]

I know a girl who got pregnant when she was 19 or 20, she took a year off (after delivering her son) and the year after she passed competitive tests and entered in Business school, (that's where I met her actually, we entered the same school, the same year). The first year in my school means around 45 hours/week of classes to validate the bachelor degree and for the master degree you have a certain number of credits to validate by going to classes and also being part of an event (She and I worked together with UNICEF for example and we were working a lot to organize everything while going to classes and doing our homework) and finally, to get this degree (on top of writting a master thesis) we need to go at least 6 months abroad and she did all this while raising a young child! So I am sorry but I don't get how Kyra didn't try to at least graduating from high school, is it so difficult to obtain you high school degree in the US??

PS I asked her how she was doing to take care of everything and she told me she was doing it for her child (I highly respect her for that!)

1. Your friend probably doesn’t live in America and doesn’t pay about a 1,000 dollars for daycare every month? From what I read, she obviously gets support from her family or live in a country where daycare is almost free (I’m guessing somewhere in Europe?).
2. Leaving a young child for 6 months? I would definitely not do it.

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Kyra could at least get her HS degree, true. But more education would be useless right now. Who would watch the babies? They have nobody and would just lose money. Getting a job? Same. It would not even pay the daycare for 2 kids. She better stay home and raise her babies, until Levi and Alaya go to school. I do understand that right now education is not her priority, but I hope it will be in a few years.
Also, my partner's mom and dad were making 60k a year, with 4 children. I guess it's doable to raise 4 children with 60K a year if you live in Utah. They probably already have a lot more saved up in my opinion.

[messza21_]

She tweeted 9 hours ago that the vlog is coming soon and still nothing? And I think this is the one that they were halfway done editing a few days ago... HOwwwwww does one 13minute video take this long to edit

[JKYOUTUBEGG]

I know a girl who got pregnant when she was 19 or 20, she took a year off (after delivering her son) and the year after she passed competitive tests and entered in Business school, (that's where I met her actually, we entered the same school, the same year). The first year in my school means around 45 hours/week of classes to validate the bachelor degree and for the master degree you have a certain number of credits to validate by going to classes and also being part of an event (She and I worked together with UNICEF for example and we were working a lot to organize everything while going to classes and doing our homework) and finally, to get this degree (on top of writting a master thesis) we need to go at least 6 months abroad and she did all this while raising a young child! So I am sorry but I don't get how Kyra didn't try to at least graduating from high school, is it so difficult to obtain you high school degree in the US??

PS I asked her how she was doing to take care of everything and she told me she was doing it for her child (I highly respect her for that!)

1. Your friend probably doesn’t live in America and doesn’t pay about a 1,000 dollars for daycare every month? From what I read, she obviously gets support from her family or live in a country where daycare is almost free (I’m guessing somewhere in Europe?).
2. Leaving a young child for 6 months? I would definitely not do it.

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Kyra could at least get her HS degree, true. But more education would be useless right now. Who would watch the babies? They have nobody and would just lose money. Getting a job? Same. It would not even pay the daycare for 2 kids. She better stay home and raise her babies, until Levi and Alaya go to school. I do understand that right now education is not her priority, but I hope it will be in a few years.
Also, my partner's mom and dad were making 60k a year, with 4 children. I guess it's doable to raise 4 children with 60K a year if you live in Utah. They probably already have a lot more saved up in my opinion.

Kyra is not the only parent. Oscar doesn't work, he is also a SAHD, he doesn't work outside of YouTube. They literally have no excuse to why they were not able to get an education. There are parents out there who are raising their children, working "real" jobs, and going to school. OK stay at home and fill their lives, take 3 days to edit, and post videos on YouTube.


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[JKYOUTUBEGG]

I know a girl who got pregnant when she was 19 or 20, she took a year off (after delivering her son) and the year after she passed competitive tests and entered in Business school, (that's where I met her actually, we entered the same school, the same year). The first year in my school means around 45 hours/week of classes to validate the bachelor degree and for the master degree you have a certain number of credits to validate by going to classes and also being part of an event (She and I worked together with UNICEF for example and we were working a lot to organize everything while going to classes and doing our homework) and finally, to get this degree (on top of writting a master thesis) we need to go at least 6 months abroad and she did all this while raising a young child! So I am sorry but I don't get how Kyra didn't try to at least graduating from high school, is it so difficult to obtain you high school degree in the US??

PS I asked her how she was doing to take care of everything and she told me she was doing it for her child (I highly respect her for that!)

1. Your friend probably doesn’t live in America and doesn’t pay about a 1,000 dollars for daycare every month? From what I read, she obviously gets support from her family or live in a country where daycare is almost free (I’m guessing somewhere in Europe?).
2. Leaving a young child for 6 months? I would definitely not do it.

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Kyra could at least get her HS degree, true. But more education would be useless right now. Who would watch the babies? They have nobody and would just lose money. Getting a job? Same. It would not even pay the daycare for 2 kids. She better stay home and raise her babies, until Levi and Alaya go to school. I do understand that right now education is not her priority, but I hope it will be in a few years.
Also, my partner's mom and dad were making 60k a year, with 4 children. I guess it's doable to raise 4 children with 60K a year if you live in Utah. They probably already have a lot more saved up in my opinion.

Kyra is not the only parent. Oscar doesn't work, he is also a SAHD, he doesn't work outside of YouTube. They literally have no excuse to why they were not able to get an education. There are parents out there who are raising their children, working "real" jobs, and going to school. OK stay at home and fill their lives, take 3 days to edit, and post videos on YouTube.


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So I really don't understand where you're coming from when you say they should wait until the kids are in school. If they were to both go to school at the same time they can alternate the days they go to classes. Kyra goes MW Oscar goes TTH.


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[Midia]

I know a girl who got pregnant when she was 19 or 20, she took a year off (after delivering her son) and the year after she passed competitive tests and entered in Business school, (that's where I met her actually, we entered the same school, the same year). The first year in my school means around 45 hours/week of classes to validate the bachelor degree and for the master degree you have a certain number of credits to validate by going to classes and also being part of an event (She and I worked together with UNICEF for example and we were working a lot to organize everything while going to classes and doing our homework) and finally, to get this degree (on top of writting a master thesis) we need to go at least 6 months abroad and she did all this while raising a young child! So I am sorry but I don't get how Kyra didn't try to at least graduating from high school, is it so difficult to obtain you high school degree in the US??

PS I asked her how she was doing to take care of everything and she told me she was doing it for her child (I highly respect her for that!)

1. Your friend probably doesn’t live in America and doesn’t pay about a 1,000 dollars for daycare every month? From what I read, she obviously gets support from her family or live in a country where daycare is almost free (I’m guessing somewhere in Europe?).
2. Leaving a young child for 6 months? I would definitely not do it.

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Kyra could at least get her HS degree, true. But more education would be useless right now. Who would watch the babies? They have nobody and would just lose money. Getting a job? Same. It would not even pay the daycare for 2 kids. She better stay home and raise her babies, until Levi and Alaya go to school. I do understand that right now education is not her priority, but I hope it will be in a few years.
Also, my partner's mom and dad were making 60k a year, with 4 children. I guess it's doable to raise 4 children with 60K a year if you live in Utah. They probably already have a lot more saved up in my opinion.

She is in France, her child was in daycare but you're right I am pretty sure we have more help in my country, plus she has help from the father of her child. And about leaving her child, she told me the went to see a psychologue to discuss the situation (because it was hard for her) but from what she told me she wanted her child to understand that she did the best for him and as hard as it was, she has now her degree, a job and is raising her child. Not eveyone is able to do that (I don't think I would be able to leave my child but I don't have children yet, I can enjoy going abroad as much as I want ^^) and I woudln't expect Kyra and Oscar to do the same but still they should try to take online classes or something.

I agree that right now with a newborn, it's going to be difficult but she choose to have second child (she could have waited for Levi to go to kindergarden to take classes instead she chose to have a second child) and that doesnt' change the fact that Oscar could still try to get a degree too, or they could both take online classes. I don't know, the way they do things is not something I understand, If i were them, I would have tried to have a backup plan before having Alaya, now of course it's going to be more difficult...
About how much you your partner's mom and dad were making, I don't know how much life cost in Utah or the US in general, and yes I am pretty sure OK saved a lot but that doesn't change the fact that if youtube stops, they won't have enough money to live the rest of their life without worrying. The problem is it will be harder for a 30 year old without any education or professionnal experience to find a job than a 20 years old.

I am getting kind of tired to discuss this topic (nothing against you flokofloz, your comment was interesting!) but that's one point where my opinion won't change OK should have a backup plan in my opinion like any other youtubers who rely only on youtube, I am not criticizing the way they live, it's great for them that they manage to make money from youtube bu still you should always have a backup plan (even if it's not going to college). I can only hope I am wrong and they live the rest of their life doing youtube but I don't think that will happen.

So change of topic - for mylself- where is the vlog? They have almost 1,9M view on the birth vlog and from what i read, O should be done with editing now...

[flokofloz]

I know a girl who got pregnant when she was 19 or 20, she took a year off (after delivering her son) and the year after she passed competitive tests and entered in Business school, (that's where I met her actually, we entered the same school, the same year). The first year in my school means around 45 hours/week of classes to validate the bachelor degree and for the master degree you have a certain number of credits to validate by going to classes and also being part of an event (She and I worked together with UNICEF for example and we were working a lot to organize everything while going to classes and doing our homework) and finally, to get this degree (on top of writting a master thesis) we need to go at least 6 months abroad and she did all this while raising a young child! So I am sorry but I don't get how Kyra didn't try to at least graduating from high school, is it so difficult to obtain you high school degree in the US??

PS I asked her how she was doing to take care of everything and she told me she was doing it for her child (I highly respect her for that!)

1. Your friend probably doesn’t live in America and doesn’t pay about a 1,000 dollars for daycare every month? From what I read, she obviously gets support from her family or live in a country where daycare is almost free (I’m guessing somewhere in Europe?).
2. Leaving a young child for 6 months? I would definitely not do it.

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Kyra could at least get her HS degree, true. But more education would be useless right now. Who would watch the babies? They have nobody and would just lose money. Getting a job? Same. It would not even pay the daycare for 2 kids. She better stay home and raise her babies, until Levi and Alaya go to school. I do understand that right now education is not her priority, but I hope it will be in a few years.
Also, my partner's mom and dad were making 60k a year, with 4 children. I guess it's doable to raise 4 children with 60K a year if you live in Utah. They probably already have a lot more saved up in my opinion.

She is in France, her child was in daycare but you're right I am pretty sure we have more help in my country, plus she has help from the father of her child. And about leaving her child, she told me the went to see a psychologue to discuss the situation (because it was hard for her) but from what she told me she wanted her child to understand that she did the best for him and as hard as it was, she has now her degree, a job and is raising her child. Not eveyone is able to do that (I don't think I would be able to leave my child but I don't have children yet, I can enjoy going abroad as much as I want ^^) and I woudln't expect Kyra and Oscar to do the same but still they should try to take online classes or something.

I agree that right now with a newborn, it's going to be difficult but she choose to have second child (she could have waited for Levi to go to kindergarden to take classes instead she chose to have a second child) and that doesnt' change the fact that Oscar could still try to get a degree too, or they could both take online classes. I don't know, the way they do things is not something I understand, If i were them, I would have tried to have a backup plan before having Alaya, now of course it's going to be more difficult...
About how much you your partner's mom and dad were making, I don't know how much life cost in Utah or the US in general, and yes I am pretty sure OK saved a lot but that doesn't change the fact that if youtube stops, they won't have enough money to live the rest of their life without worrying. The problem is it will be harder for a 30 year old without any education or professionnal experience to find a job than a 20 years old.

I am getting kind of tired to discuss this topic (nothing against you flokofloz, your comment was interesting!) but that's one point where my opinion won't change OK should have a backup plan in my opinion like any other youtubers who rely only on youtube, I am not criticizing the way they live, it's great for them that they manage to make money from youtube bu still you should always have a backup plan (even if it's not going to college). I can only hope I am wrong and they live the rest of their life doing youtube but I don't think that will happen.

So change of topic - for mylself- where is the vlog? They have almost 1,9M view on the birth vlog and from what i read, O should be done with editing now...

Il se trouve que je suis française aussi donc je connais bien le fonctionnement de la France, le rythme scolaire, les crèches. Je connais aussi les Etats-Unis puisque j'y ai vécu plusieurs années avec mon futur mari qui est Américain. Autant te dire que nous sommes rentrés en France quand on a vu combien coûte un enfant non scolarisé aux US. Même en ayant un master et un travail correcte, les 3/4 de ton salaire partent dans la crèche et les assurances médicales.

Effectivement, tout le monde à des avis différents. Moi je trouve qu'il y a des parents bien pires qu'eux (même en France où élever un enfant est pourtant bien plus facile) et qu'ils ne méritent pas toutes les méchancetés jetées ici (mais les conseils oui certainement). Nous ne connaissons pas leur situation financière, si ça se trouve, ils sont plein aux as. Mais oui toujours toujours avoir un backup plan, ça fait parti de ma vision de la vie. Je suppose qu'ils le feront un jour d'ailleurs. Je ne pense pas qu'ils soient si stupides. Je ne pense pas qu'ils vivront de YT toute leur vie, mais ils semblent bien partis pour plusieurs années encore.



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Oscar taking care of two kids, recording, editing, studying? Sounds like a dream. We all know it's not that easy. Especially when you have nobody around. They could take 1 or 2 classes online maybe. Still better than nothing.

[Midia]

I know a girl who got pregnant when she was 19 or 20, she took a year off (after delivering her son) and the year after she passed competitive tests and entered in Business school, (that's where I met her actually, we entered the same school, the same year). The first year in my school means around 45 hours/week of classes to validate the bachelor degree and for the master degree you have a certain number of credits to validate by going to classes and also being part of an event (She and I worked together with UNICEF for example and we were working a lot to organize everything while going to classes and doing our homework) and finally, to get this degree (on top of writting a master thesis) we need to go at least 6 months abroad and she did all this while raising a young child! So I am sorry but I don't get how Kyra didn't try to at least graduating from high school, is it so difficult to obtain you high school degree in the US??

PS I asked her how she was doing to take care of everything and she told me she was doing it for her child (I highly respect her for that!)

1. Your friend probably doesn’t live in America and doesn’t pay about a 1,000 dollars for daycare every month? From what I read, she obviously gets support from her family or live in a country where daycare is almost free (I’m guessing somewhere in Europe?).
2. Leaving a young child for 6 months? I would definitely not do it.

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Kyra could at least get her HS degree, true. But more education would be useless right now. Who would watch the babies? They have nobody and would just lose money. Getting a job? Same. It would not even pay the daycare for 2 kids. She better stay home and raise her babies, until Levi and Alaya go to school. I do understand that right now education is not her priority, but I hope it will be in a few years.
Also, my partner's mom and dad were making 60k a year, with 4 children. I guess it's doable to raise 4 children with 60K a year if you live in Utah. They probably already have a lot more saved up in my opinion.

She is in France, her child was in daycare but you're right I am pretty sure we have more help in my country, plus she has help from the father of her child. And about leaving her child, she told me the went to see a psychologue to discuss the situation (because it was hard for her) but from what she told me she wanted her child to understand that she did the best for him and as hard as it was, she has now her degree, a job and is raising her child. Not eveyone is able to do that (I don't think I would be able to leave my child but I don't have children yet, I can enjoy going abroad as much as I want ^^) and I woudln't expect Kyra and Oscar to do the same but still they should try to take online classes or something.

I agree that right now with a newborn, it's going to be difficult but she choose to have second child (she could have waited for Levi to go to kindergarden to take classes instead she chose to have a second child) and that doesnt' change the fact that Oscar could still try to get a degree too, or they could both take online classes. I don't know, the way they do things is not something I understand, If i were them, I would have tried to have a backup plan before having Alaya, now of course it's going to be more difficult...
About how much you your partner's mom and dad were making, I don't know how much life cost in Utah or the US in general, and yes I am pretty sure OK saved a lot but that doesn't change the fact that if youtube stops, they won't have enough money to live the rest of their life without worrying. The problem is it will be harder for a 30 year old without any education or professionnal experience to find a job than a 20 years old.

I am getting kind of tired to discuss this topic (nothing against you flokofloz, your comment was interesting!) but that's one point where my opinion won't change OK should have a backup plan in my opinion like any other youtubers who rely only on youtube, I am not criticizing the way they live, it's great for them that they manage to make money from youtube bu still you should always have a backup plan (even if it's not going to college). I can only hope I am wrong and they live the rest of their life doing youtube but I don't think that will happen.

So change of topic - for mylself- where is the vlog? They have almost 1,9M view on the birth vlog and from what i read, O should be done with editing now...

Il se trouve que je suis française aussi donc je connais bien le fonctionnement de la France, le rythme scolaire, les crèches. Je connais aussi les Etats-Unis puisque j'y ai vécu plusieurs années avec mon futur mari qui est Américain. Autant te dire que nous sommes rentrés en France quand on a vu combien coûte un enfant non scolarisé aux US. Même en ayant un master et un travail correcte, les 3/4 de ton salaire partent dans la crèche et les assurances médicales.

Effectivement, tout le monde à des avis différents. Moi je trouve qu'il y a des parents bien pires qu'eux (même en France où élever un enfant est pourtant bien plus facile) et qu'ils ne méritent pas toutes les méchancetés jetées ici (mais les conseils oui certainement). Nous ne connaissons pas leur situation financière, si ça se trouve, ils sont plein aux as. Mais oui toujours toujours avoir un backup plan, ça fait parti de ma vision de la vie. Je suppose qu'ils le feront un jour d'ailleurs. Je ne pense pas qu'ils soient si stupides. Je ne pense pas qu'ils vivront de YT toute leur vie, mais ils semblent bien partis pour plusieurs années encore.



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Oscar taking care of two kids, recording, editing, studying? Sounds like a dream. We all know it's not that easy. Especially when you have nobody around. They could take 1 or 2 classes online maybe. Still better than nothing.

Donc tu peux bien mieux que moi comparer les deux systèmes ^^ (mais en effet j'ai entendu dire que c’était très cher là bas). Je suis d'accord, il y a des parents bien pires qu'eux (Jesssfam... xD) et personnellement je ne pense pas être particulièrement méchante (je trouve Oscar très immature, bien plus que Kyra mais ensuite je ne me permets certainement pas de violemment critiquer comme certains ici et je trouve que Levi se développe comme il faut mais je ne suis pas parent donc à se niveau là je ne fais que lire les commentaire, à part quand Levi était pied nu dehors et qu'il y avait de la neige ). En effet nous ne connaissons pas leur situation financière et (je l'ai déjà dit avant) leur choix de mettre de l'argent de coté pour acheter une maison me parait très intelligente (de même j'étais vraiment d'accord avec Oscar quand il a dit qu'avoir des enfant ensemble était pour lui/et pour elle, un engagement bien plus fort que le mariage) mais il semblerait que l'on partage cette même vision qu'il faut toujours avoir un plan de secours et je suis d'accord qu'ils vont surement continuer sans problèmes quelques années et honnêtement, je ne leur souhaite que du bien mais je suis du genre à toujours essayer de me projeter dans 5 ans et à me préparer au pire juste au cas où, je ne pense pas qu'ils soient stupide non plus mais j'espère qu'ils ont cette vision à long terme (peut être qu'ils ne le montrent juste pas dans leur vlog).

Sorry for the french guys! My comment was pretty much what I said before I don't think editing is "easy" but I am sure, if they really wanted to, with more organisation in their life (because their schedule seems a little F* up) they could take some classes, at least Oscar.

[flokofloz]

So I really don't understand where you're coming from when you say they should wait until the kids are in school. If they were to both go to school at the same time they can alternate the days they go to classes. Kyra goes MW Oscar goes TTH.
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I think it would be smarter, that's my opinion. More time for them to study, less stress, no kids around. I also don't see how they could provide for their family if they "stop" YouTube to study and go back to school 2/3 times a week. They would need to save more first or get some help. I do think MW and TTH is doable, but when your family supports you financially. That's what my friends did. They had decided to live with their parents until they finish college. The kid was already one when they moved out.
But they could definitely take two online classes. Just my opinion.

[flokofloz]

Donc tu peux bien mieux que moi comparer les deux systèmes ^^ (mais en effet j'ai entendu dire que c’était très cher là bas). Je suis d'accord, il y a des parents bien pires qu'eux (Jesssfam... xD) et personnellement je ne pense pas être particulièrement méchante (je trouve Oscar très immature, bien plus que Kyra mais ensuite je ne me permets certainement pas de violemment critiquer comme certains ici et je trouve que Levi se développe comme il faut mais je ne suis pas parent donc à se niveau là je ne fais que lire les commentaire, à part quand Levi était pied nu dehors et qu'il y avait de la neige ). En effet nous ne connaissons pas leur situation financière et (je l'ai déjà dit avant) leur choix de mettre de l'argent de coté pour acheter une maison me parait très intelligente (de même j'étais vraiment d'accord avec Oscar quand il a dit qu'avoir des enfant ensemble était pour lui/et pour elle, un engagement bien plus fort que le mariage) mais il semblerait que l'on partage cette même vision qu'il faut toujours avoir un plan de secours et je suis d'accord qu'ils vont surement continuer sans problèmes quelques années et honnêtement, je ne leur souhaite que du bien mais je suis du genre à toujours essayer de me projeter dans 5 ans et à me préparer au pire juste au cas où, je ne pense pas qu'ils soient stupide non plus mais j'espère qu'ils ont cette vision à long terme (peut être qu'ils ne le montrent juste pas dans leur vlog).

Sorry for the french guys! My comment was pretty much what I said before I don't think editing is "easy" but I am sure, if they really wanted to, with more organisation in their life (because their schedule seems a little F* up) they could take some classes, at least Oscar.

Oui c'est très cher. On gagne beaucoup moins en France et nous avons une meilleure qualité de vie.

Je ne te trouve pas du tout méchante en effet, mais certains commentaires d'autres postantes sont un peu (beaucoup) durs parfois.

Je trouve Oscar parfois immature devant la caméra c'est vrai, mais il est tout de même respectueux, amoureux de ses enfants, il transmet de l'amour, il fait de nombreuses activités qui sont très bien pour le développement de Levi (et ça se voit), il subvient aux besoins de sa famille, il n'a pas lâché Kyra comme d'autres l'auraient fait, il économise pour acheter une maison, il est pour l'allaitement, la DME, nourrit Levi plutôt sainement. Alors certes il est taquin, fait des erreurs (Kyra aussi d'ailleurs), fait le malin devant la caméra, mais je trouve que pour son âge, ce n'est vraiment pas si mal. Qui sait, il est peut-être différent derrière la caméra et en dehors de son rôle. Personnellement, j'ai vu de nombreux parents de 30/35 ans en faire beaucouuuup moins que lui, nourrit les enfants de donuts, être contre l'allaitement même. Évidemment ils font moins d'erreurs aussi puisqu'ils s'occupent moins des enfants et surtout ne le mettent pas sur internet ^^

Je suis d'accord avec tout le reste

Yes sorry guys! Back to English

[wolflily23]

Oscar taking care of two kids, recording, editing, studying? Sounds like a dream. We all know it's not that easy. Especially when you have nobody around. They could take 1 or 2 classes online maybe. Still better than nothing.

Omg this forum is getting RIDICULOUS!

It's not that easy to take care of two kids, record, edit and study? They literally do NOTHING all day. They constantly say in their videos that they're afraid the vlogs are too boring because all they've got for the day is playing with Levi and watching them eat!! Oh right, going sledding and to target makes life too hard to study.

There are people with ACTUAL 9 to 5 jobs with KIDS who find time to go to school. Even if it is online classes. Because they are MOTIVATED to do so. Oscar and Kyra are just plain lazy. They didn't like school so they don't WANT to further their education. Right now with Youtube money coming in is the PRIME time to further their education. And to the person saying daycare would cost too much and it wouldn't be worth it for them- ummmm, they both stay home. Why the hell would they need both kids in daycare!? The only thing I wish Kyra was smart enough to do is get her GED. Because no, Youtube won't last forever for all you delusional "bug buddies" who argue with that fact. Honestly, at the rate they are going with false promises and late upload times, I would not be one bit surprised if by this time next year people stop caring about them and they lose a lot of their viewers. Especially if their vlogs go stale again a few months from now when Alaya is a little bigger.

The last thing I want to say is- this is a GOSSIP forum. For people who don't consider themselves "fans". Yes we all have our own opinions regarding what O and K do and debates make it interesting. But we aren't on here defending EVERY single thing O and K do. I for one will just be ignoring all posts by those people.

[Rkp65i]

There is a picture on Snap of Alaya with a thick blanket over her and pretty close to her face. Im not a parent, so can anyone chime in and tell me if that is as dangerous as it looks, because it would make me uncomfortable if it were my child?

Well she bought that monitor that is all the rage so shes going to use that as an excuse. I dont understand these mothers who use blankets. They literally told me no blankets my hospital so many times that I could recite theor speil back to them.

[ilovelamp]

Well that just got taken to places it didn't need to... moving on...

I was going to say that I wonder why they don't just post a few days a week instead of attempting and miserably failing at being daily vloggers,
but then I realized that duh... they bring in more money per video posted. They'd rather look like idiots & get more money. They'll never be on track
at this point. They are such a mess. I watched them about a year ago or more, after Levi was born and Oscar had a job. It was a lot more enjoyable
to watch. They've fallen apart.

[soul_in_a_earthsuit]

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HOLY CRAP! That is insane. WHY are all these yt parents OBSESSED with throwing heavy blankets over their kids when it is NOT SAFE?!

[missy-1010]

Ugh how do we get this "bub buddy" out of here


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[soul_in_a_earthsuit]

Yeah, that's what they've said about marriage which is why I and others mentioned that they could get engaged and then wait a few years (or until they buy their house, whatever) before the actual wedding. Kyra clearly wants that ring.

Guess their priorities are babies and buying a house. They're going to be really busy to even enjoy the moment. I don't see the rush.

LOL no rush? Tell that to them when youtube falls thru, they run out of money and cant provide for their family and are stuck living on minimum wage barely getting by..or what about being an example for their kids? they should profit now while they still can. before their 15 mins of fame are over.

Geez..calm the eff down.Kyra has mentioned time and again about how their priorities are not similar to other regular 20 yr olds. She likes to have more kids and be with them while they grow. What's the use of a degree when she's a stay at home mom? YouTube won't stop suddenly and considering they know how it works better and are good with finance,I'm sure their future is secure.[/quote]


i dont know...here's one reason: so her kids can have a mother who graduated at least high school. so she can provide a better example for her kids so that they dont think dropping out and getting pregnant young is easy or ok to do. Maybe her priorities should change a bit. What happens if she and oscar split? She will be a single mom and will HAVE to go back to work and wont have any degree (not even a GED) to let her get a well paying job to support her kids. If YT fails, neither will have that opportunity either. It's just not something I would ever risk considering that after they buy that house, their savings will be blown and they will have to live, pay taxes, and send their kids to college one day on that money since they will have no other means of a stable, liveable income.

[Neonbatsintrees]

What happened to this from since I've been gone/not posting a lot. So many new people, bug buddies, and unusual arguments. It's getting weird in here. I feel strange.
It's becoming less of a place to talk shit about OK without getting shit for it. And that's just weird.

[sofreakingnotok]

Guess their priorities are babies and buying a house. They're going to be really busy to even enjoy the moment. I don't see the rush.

LOL no rush? Tell that to them when youtube falls thru, they run out of money and cant provide for their family and are stuck living on minimum wage barely getting by..or what about being an example for their kids? they should profit now while they still can. before their 15 mins of fame are over.

Geez..calm the eff down.Kyra has mentioned time and again about how their priorities are not similar to other regular 20 yr olds. She likes to have more kids and be with them while they grow. What's the use of a degree when she's a stay at home mom? YouTube won't stop suddenly and considering they know how it works better and are good with finance,I'm sure their future is secure.

i dont know...here's one reason: so her kids can have a mother who graduated at least high school. so she can provide a better example for her kids so that they dont think dropping out and getting pregnant young is easy or ok to do. Maybe her priorities should change a bit. What happens if she and oscar split? She will be a single mom and will HAVE to go back to work and wont have any degree (not even a GED) to let her get a well paying job to support her kids. If YT fails, neither will have that opportunity either. It's just not something I would ever risk considering that after they buy that house, their savings will be blown and they will have to live, pay taxes, and send their kids to college one day on that money since they will have no other means of a stable, liveable income.[/quote]

Case in point: Oscar asked his little siblings if they want to have kids when they are his age and they both said yes. Oscar tries to save face and says something like "uh no, you're supposed to say no". Yes Levi and Aleyah are at risk for dropping out and having kids at 18 it's the example their parents are setting. Children see, children do. What are the odds that they will be able to get lucky like OK did and get a YT(or whatever the similar website may be in 15 years) "job" ?