C&K - Boss Babies Part #15

[Playsinrain]

The ONLY reason for not taking Emma to the vet stat is they are lazy af. There literally is no other reason or excuse at this point.

And just to say, I had to sit down when I saw that they actually took the kids to a play park. I mean, an actual outside, real life play park. Perhaps that's what exhausted them too much to tend to Emma

They actually take the kids to the park quite a lot. Cullen takes Brooks to that park every week while Gaines is at gymnastics.

[Playsinrain]

Why I associated a kid to the pet is because I'm thinking in terms of an infant/toddler since I currently have a child that age who can't communicate yet. If it was a much older child who can describe their symptoms then yes, I certainly wouldn't compare the two species. I did not know pets could hide their symptoms, do all of them do that? My cat was very lethargic years ago which was weird for him, but we waited it out for a few hours until he showed signs of not eating or playing so we did take him to the vet and found out it was a UTI.

As for the vet costs, I'm sure the money wasn't an issue. I was just saying that not a lot of people are lucky to save enough money for an overall emergency fund because you brought up saving money for your pets which is great, but I'm pretty sure others are not as fortunate to do so.

Sorry RBF if I discredited your feelings comparing your pet to kids who can't communicate how they feel yet. That was not my intention. I was just bringing up another scenario.

I agree with you 100%. My dog is my 3rd child, and i care for her just as i would one of my kids. I would have waited it out with Emma as well. The pain was not continuous, home remedy's were easing her pain and after 24 hours they took her. I don't see the outrage really...

[Playsinrain]

When did they say in the vlog that they didnt take her bc they couldnt afford it? I must have missed that part...

[askeptichere]

Why I associated a kid to the pet is because I'm thinking in terms of an infant/toddler since I currently have a child that age who can't communicate yet. If it was a much older child who can describe their symptoms then yes, I certainly wouldn't compare the two species. I did not know pets could hide their symptoms, do all of them do that? My cat was very lethargic years ago which was weird for him, but we waited it out for a few hours until he showed signs of not eating or playing so we did take him to the vet and found out it was a UTI.

As for the vet costs, I'm sure the money wasn't an issue. I was just saying that not a lot of people are lucky to save enough money for an overall emergency fund because you brought up saving money for your pets which is great, but I'm pretty sure others are not as fortunate to do so.

Sorry RBF if I discredited your feelings comparing your pet to kids who can't communicate how they feel yet. That was not my intention. I was just bringing up another scenario.

I agree with you 100%. My dog is my 3rd child, and i care for her just as i would one of my kids. I would have waited it out with Emma as well. The pain was not continuous, home remedy's were easing her pain and after 24 hours they took her. I don't see the outrage really...

Not to nitpick, but in the vlog "What happened to Emma?" Cullen said she had been acting like that for the past 2 days. So they waited at least 4 days to get her to the vet. I understand maybe waiting a day to see if it kept happening, but not 4 days.

[Playsinrain]

HS, that’s great you put aside money for your pets emergency fund but others are not as fortunate.

Also want to elaborate on the fact that taking a child or pet out of their comfort zone without exhausting all other options could be more stressful to them, so that’s why some wait it out to determine how necessary it is to go to the ER or vet. Just sayin’....

I'm glad you brought this up bc no one else has and i was going too. Emma is clearly TERRIFIED of the vet, as is my dog. Stress can be a hell of a lot worse on a dog than a dislocated knee. I'm not saying that they shouldnt have brought her in at all bc yes, by all means they should IF they cannot ease her pain and get her feeling better at home. If my dog gets too stressed she has major stomach issues that wind up sending her BACK the vet. The sickest my dog has ever been was after she was sent to the vet for grooming. It was so bad that we DID have to call in the ER vet for meds and IV fluids. We were told then that we should avoid bringing her to the vet unless it was absolutely necessary (meaning no more grooming visits or boarding there). Emma was terrified and stressed to the max, thats not good for a dog either.

[Playsinrain]

Why I associated a kid to the pet is because I'm thinking in terms of an infant/toddler since I currently have a child that age who can't communicate yet. If it was a much older child who can describe their symptoms then yes, I certainly wouldn't compare the two species. I did not know pets could hide their symptoms, do all of them do that? My cat was very lethargic years ago which was weird for him, but we waited it out for a few hours until he showed signs of not eating or playing so we did take him to the vet and found out it was a UTI.

As for the vet costs, I'm sure the money wasn't an issue. I was just saying that not a lot of people are lucky to save enough money for an overall emergency fund because you brought up saving money for your pets which is great, but I'm pretty sure others are not as fortunate to do so.

Sorry RBF if I discredited your feelings comparing your pet to kids who can't communicate how they feel yet. That was not my intention. I was just bringing up another scenario.

I agree with you 100%. My dog is my 3rd child, and i care for her just as i would one of my kids. I would have waited it out with Emma as well. The pain was not continuous, home remedy's were easing her pain and after 24 hours they took her. I don't see the outrage really...

Not to nitpick, but in the vlog "What happened to Emma?" Cullen said she had been acting like that for the past 2 days. So they waited at least 4 days to get her to the vet. I understand maybe waiting a day to see if it kept happening, but not 4 days.

Unless say the first day she only seemed uncomfortable maybe once.. and then it got worse over the next few days. We don't know exactly how bad she was when this first started, so i can't judge what i didn't see. From the info they gave us, i still stand by the opinion that they handled the situation fine.

[Theirmom]

The only possible justification for waiting to take her to the vet is if it’s a chronic condition that they’re already aware of, and they played it up as a “mystery” for the vlog.

My dog is old, and has awful arthritis. Like, he hobbles around, grunts when he gets up or lays down, and is typically in visible discomfort. A stranger might think we’re terrible pet owners ignoring his pain. But, what they don’t see is the monthly cortisone injections, the daily anti inflammatory and pain reliever, and the preventive glucosamine treatments we’ve been doing for years. This really is as good as it gets for him until he lets us know he’s done.

My only hope is that this is the case with Emma, and that they’re faking not knowing for the views. It wouldn’t be the first time vloggers were deceptive about something like this.


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[Playsinrain]

The only possible justification for waiting to take her to the vet is if it’s a chronic condition that they’re already aware of, and they played it up as a “mystery” for the vlog.

My dog is old, and has awful arthritis. Like, he hobbles around, grunts when he gets up or lays down, and is typically in visible discomfort. A stranger might think we’re terrible pet owners ignoring his pain. But, what they don’t see is the monthly cortisone injections, the daily anti inflammatory and pain reliever, and the preventive glucosamine treatments we’ve been doing for years. This really is as good as it gets for him until he lets us know he’s done.

My only hope is that this is the case with Emma, and that they’re faking not knowing for the views. It wouldn’t be the first time vloggers were deceptive about something like this.


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I thought about this as well bc they said Ada has the same condition. I had a feeling that maybe they knew she had it but that it has gotten worse now that shes older...

[askeptichere]

The only possible justification for waiting to take her to the vet is if it’s a chronic condition that they’re already aware of, and they played it up as a “mystery” for the vlog.

My dog is old, and has awful arthritis. Like, he hobbles around, grunts when he gets up or lays down, and is typically in visible discomfort. A stranger might think we’re terrible pet owners ignoring his pain. But, what they don’t see is the monthly cortisone injections, the daily anti inflammatory and pain reliever, and the preventive glucosamine treatments we’ve been doing for years. This really is as good as it gets for him until he lets us know he’s done.

My only hope is that this is the case with Emma, and that they’re faking not knowing for the views. It wouldn’t be the first time vloggers were deceptive about something like this.


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I thought about this as well bc they said Ada has the same condition. I had a feeling that maybe they knew she had it but that it has gotten worse now that shes older...

I don’t see how that makes it any better. If she’s so terrified of the vet as they claim, force her to go when they already know what the problem is? For views?


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[Playsinrain]

The only possible justification for waiting to take her to the vet is if it’s a chronic condition that they’re already aware of, and they played it up as a “mystery” for the vlog.

My dog is old, and has awful arthritis. Like, he hobbles around, grunts when he gets up or lays down, and is typically in visible discomfort. A stranger might think we’re terrible pet owners ignoring his pain. But, what they don’t see is the monthly cortisone injections, the daily anti inflammatory and pain reliever, and the preventive glucosamine treatments we’ve been doing for years. This really is as good as it gets for him until he lets us know he’s done.

My only hope is that this is the case with Emma, and that they’re faking not knowing for the views. It wouldn’t be the first time vloggers were deceptive about something like this.


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I thought about this as well bc they said Ada has the same condition. I had a feeling that maybe they knew she had it but that it has gotten worse now that shes older...

I don’t see how that makes it any better. If she’s so terrified of the vet as they claim, force her to go when they already know what the problem is? For views?


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Or to get meds to help her, which they may not have prescribed when she was first diagnosed or has already finished that course of treatment. If she has gotten worse since she was first diagnosed then yes, for sure take her in even if she is scared.
I don't think that you should not take your pet to the vet if they need a visit just bc they are scared, i just think that if you do have a pet that stresses from a visit that you should try everything you can to keep your pet out of the vets office... but sometimes it's unavoidable.

[Theirmom]

I don't think that you should not take your pet to the vet if they need a visit just bc they are scared, i just think that if you do have a pet that stresses from a visit that you should try everything you can to keep your pet out of the vets office... but sometimes it's unavoidable.

Not really an excuse. We paid the $30 fee to have the vet come to the house. Not because of stress, but because he was in too much pain to move him.
Totally worth the extra money to have the vet come to us. Most vets have that option if you’re willing to pay for it.

[Playsinrain]

I don't think that you should not take your pet to the vet if they need a visit just bc they are scared, i just think that if you do have a pet that stresses from a visit that you should try everything you can to keep your pet out of the vets office... but sometimes it's unavoidable.

Not really an excuse. We paid the $30 fee to have the vet come to the house. Not because of stress, but because he was in too much pain to move him.
Totally worth the extra money to have the vet come to us. Most vets have that option if you’re willing to pay for it.

We are in a very very rural area (more cows than people here, my town has a population of barely 400 people) so yes, they do offer "farm calls" but most times they discourage that type of visit unless, like you said, you are physically unable to bring the pet in. There is normally a good wait for a house call bc we only have 2 vets, one in office and one farm vet who is very busy on actual farm calls. It's also a $75 fee here. Money isn't the issue though, bc if it has to be done then it has to be done. I assume they (C&K) have better options than we do living in a larger city, but i can understand why someone would skip a home visit for a dog that is just scared of the vet. We all, pets included, have to do things that scare us from time to time. It's not an excuse to refuse to get your pet help when they absolutely need it, but it can be a factor in how you decide to take your pet in.

[HelloSweetie]

Cullen and Katie waited over a month before taking the cats to the vet when they were peeing all over the house. They tried to change absolutely nothing, and complained hard enough that it required a twitter rant, and a conversation about giving the cats away. A MONTH. That could have been renal disease, a UTI, etc. Not to mention how painful it probably was. They aren't good pet owners period. They aren't taking a guarded home-based approach for the sake of the pets. They are bing selfish and negligent.

The child:pet comparison only works if you consider a non-verbal toddler. If I had a toddler that was hobbling and couldn't bear weight on their leg, I would never wait days to take them to the doctor! How long would most people watch their 1 year old limp around and just "wait and see?"

I agree with TM that it's different if you know what you are dealing with, but I don't think this was the case. Their past behaviour gives us every reason to believe they were just being lazy. I have a cat that is deathly afraid of the vet so I get that can be a factor, but her add is going if I feel her health is at risk in any way.

[Theirmom]

Cullen and Katie waited over a month before taking the cats to the vet when they were peeing all over the house. They tried to change absolutely nothing, and complained hard enough that it required a twitter rant, and a conversation about giving the cats away. A MONTH. That could have been renal disease, a UTI, etc. Not to mention how painful it probably was. They aren't good pet owners period. They aren't taking a guarded home-based approach for the sake of the pets. They are bing selfish and negligent.

The child:pet comparison only works if you consider a non-verbal toddler. If I had a toddler that was hobbling and couldn't bear weight on their leg, I would never wait days to take them to the doctor! How long would most people watch their 1 year old limp around and just "wait and see?"

I agree with TM that it's different if you know what you are dealing with, but I don't think this was the case. Their past behaviour gives us every reason to believe they were just being lazy. I have a cat that is deathly afraid of the vet so I get that can be a factor, but her add is going if I feel her health is at risk in any way.

I am actually appalled about the absolute disregard they have for the safety of their cats. They let those kids practically maul them. MG carrying around Whitaker like a rag doll literally left me gape jawed.

Not every cat will react aggressively to that kind of stress. Some of them just go limp, and then run and hide and pee all over your stuff. Just because the cats “let” the kids grab, carry and lay on them doesn’t mean they’re okay with it.
Not to mention how badly they could injure the cats. I don’t even let my older kids carry the cats, never mind my preschooler.
You want to know why those cats are stress peeing everywhere. This, right here.
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[Playsinrain]

Not defending them letting the kids tote the cats around (my daughter had to have stitches in her lip when she was about MG's age bc she picked up a cat we had told her a million times not to pick up. They should not encourage that behavior.) but they also had just moved into a new house. I think the huge life changes had a very big impact in the cats behavior. I also think that's why they waited so long before taking the cats to the vet about it. Hoping that time and getting used to the current home situation would remedy that. Seeing as though that was the only symptom, they were behaving normally other than the peeing in the wrong place issue.. The cats were healthy so saying that the cats were in pain is a pretty big stretch. They haven't had anymore issues (that we know of) since they did the changes. (the one time they thought they had peed it wound up not being the case) So i feel like the move had more to do with it than the kids behavior. Like i said, i'm not saying the way the kids are with the cats is ok, i just think the move had more to do with that than the kids. I also know that i'm in the minority when i say that i never believed they were considering getting rid of the cats. C&K both are VERY sarcastic people, they never sounded serious AT ALL about getting rid of the cats, i think it was all jokes/click bait. If someone read here and didn't watch their vlogs they would think they actually did get rid or put the cats to sleep. That is not the truth and i'm not sure why it is talked about like it actually happened, when in fact it didn't... at all.. other than a handful of sarcastic remarks.

[HelloSweetie]

Cats hide when they are in pain very well. C&K didn't know they were healthy until AFTER they had them checked by the vet.

[Playsinrain]

Cats hide when they are in pain very well. C&K didn't know they were healthy until AFTER they had them checked by the vet.

But they were healthy, and not in pain, so why state "not to mention how painful it probably was.." when the cats got a clean bill of health and were not in pain? I don't discredit your opinion, i'm just saying its quite the stretch to talk about how much pain the cats were in when they were not in pain and pain wasn't the issue.

[HelloSweetie]

Cats hide when they are in pain very well. C&K didn't know they were healthy until AFTER they had them checked by the vet.

But they were healthy, and not in pain, so why state "not to mention how painful it probably was.." when the cats got a clean bill of health and were not in pain? I don't discredit your opinion, i'm just saying its quite the stretch to talk about how much pain the cats were in when they were not in pain and pain wasn't the issue.

Sorry. Meant to say "how painful it could have been."

They didn't know shit about the situation, and didn't try ANYTHING to rule out a physical cause. They couldn't even go to the trouble of unpacking their comfort items.

Fine if you want to defend them, but in my opinion it's indefensible. If Bryan and Missy were to treat their pets that way, there would be few people excusing it.

[tori]

Why I associated a kid to the pet is because I'm thinking in terms of an infant/toddler since I currently have a child that age who can't communicate yet. If it was a much older child who can describe their symptoms then yes, I certainly wouldn't compare the two species. I did not know pets could hide their symptoms, do all of them do that? My cat was very lethargic years ago which was weird for him, but we waited it out for a few hours until he showed signs of not eating or playing so we did take him to the vet and found out it was a UTI.

As for the vet costs, I'm sure the money wasn't an issue. I was just saying that not a lot of people are lucky to save enough money for an overall emergency fund because you brought up saving money for your pets which is great, but I'm pretty sure others are not as fortunate to do so.

Sorry RBF if I discredited your feelings comparing your pet to kids who can't communicate how they feel yet. That was not my intention. I was just bringing up another scenario.

If you can't afford proper vet care, you shouldn't have a pet. It's one thing foto be blown out of the water by a massive emergency or health issue like cancer, but if you don't have money available for routine vet visits, you should not have a pet. Period.

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[Playsinrain]

Cats hide when they are in pain very well. C&K didn't know they were healthy until AFTER they had them checked by the vet.

But they were healthy, and not in pain, so why state "not to mention how painful it probably was.." when the cats got a clean bill of health and were not in pain? I don't discredit your opinion, i'm just saying its quite the stretch to talk about how much pain the cats were in when they were not in pain and pain wasn't the issue.

Sorry. Meant to say "how painful it could have been."

They didn't know shit about the situation, and didn't try ANYTHING to rule out a physical cause. They couldn't even go to the trouble of unpacking their comfort items.

Fine if you want to defend them, but in my opinion it's indefensible. If Bryan and Missy were to treat their pets that way, there would be few people excusing it.

I don't think it's completely defensible and i don't want to come across that way. No they did not have enough litter boxes in the house, they should have unpacked the cat's things just as they did everyone else's. They should have realized that THEY were adding to the peeing issue. Maybe they shouldn't have made the jokes about giving the cats away. And they surely shouldnt have said that they tried everything, when in fact they had tried nearly nothing. I just think that sometimes things are blown out of proportion here, and things that didn't happen are talked about like they did happen.

I will stand by the fact that i think C&K are MUCH better pet parents than B&M are. It's not all that matters, but at least they treat those pets as members of the family. They aren't locked up in cages or in a small muddy pen 24/7. Remember Missy and Bryan are ACTUALLY GUILTY of getting rid of the cat (and chickens and other dogs oh and where is Ollie's mouse John??) when they got fed up with them. C&K did not. I'm not saying that makes them saints, bc i totally agree that things should have been handled differently with the cat situation, but joking about things like that and actually doing it are two totally different things. I have to defend C&K over B&M bc to B&M animals are disposable status symbols, i feel like they have zero emotional attachment to those pets whereas C&K actually do. Like i said, loving your pet does not alone make you a great pet parent, but it makes a hell of a lot of difference in my eyes.