C&K: Tankful of Marital Issues. Part #18

[captainoflife]

What happened to the date nights? (Sarcasm)

[MotherNature2]

What happened to the date nights? (Sarcasm)

Date night is for people who actually want alone time together..lol

[rdt1004]

What happened to the date nights? (Sarcasm)

Date night is for people who actually want alone time together..lol

They probably stopped going cause all they did was fight when they did go lol.


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[Scar2016]

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[Toodles123]

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[Playsinrain]

Gaines' school program was super cute.... I hope Cullen got permission from all the parents for those kids to be in the vlog!

[Playsinrain]

That's a terrible thing to say! My brother said that if his second son had been born first, they only would have had one-- they didn't even have to baby proof with their first, and the second would try to climb anything he could and was fascinated with knives. But he never said it within earshot of his second son (or his first, and he certainly didn't say it on the internet!
And that whole thing with the worm pisses me off too. Worms definitely don't want to be clutched in little hands getting dried out, go down slides, or be "loved" by little kids. Or ripped in half. And what happens if she finds a snake? "Look mommy! I found a BIG worm!" After the way they terrified that poor frog in Florida, I can't say I am surprised. Way to teach respect for God's creatures, Katie!


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Welllll... I'm a terrible person bc i tell my daughter that she is straight up the reason we don't have more kids. She was a terrible baby, I make no excuses. Colic, reflux, never slept. super super needy and whiny... I mean i always tell her i wouldnt take a thing for her, but yeah I'm not ashamed to say my daughter knows she was a terrible infant and she scared baby fever right out of me. I'd rather be honest when she asks me how she was as a baby than to lie to her and tell her she was a perfect angel. She laughs about it and thinks it's hilarious, and says she acted that way bc she wanted to always be the youngest in the extended family.... so...

[Scar2016]

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Thanks for the reminder, just typed suggestion in title thread. I'm a new mod here so learning new things while forgetting some of the old

By the same token, the reminder about new thread title suggestions is appropriate for the main thread here.

[lmmomSD]

That's a terrible thing to say! My brother said that if his second son had been born first, they only would have had one-- they didn't even have to baby proof with their first, and the second would try to climb anything he could and was fascinated with knives. But he never said it within earshot of his second son (or his first, and he certainly didn't say it on the internet!
And that whole thing with the worm pisses me off too. Worms definitely don't want to be clutched in little hands getting dried out, go down slides, or be "loved" by little kids. Or ripped in half. And what happens if she finds a snake? "Look mommy! I found a BIG worm!" After the way they terrified that poor frog in Florida, I can't say I am surprised. Way to teach respect for God's creatures, Katie!


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Welllll... I'm a terrible person bc i tell my daughter that she is straight up the reason we don't have more kids. She was a terrible baby, I make no excuses. Colic, reflux, never slept. super super needy and whiny... I mean i always tell her i wouldnt take a thing for her, but yeah I'm not ashamed to say my daughter knows she was a terrible infant and she scared baby fever right out of me. I'd rather be honest when she asks me how she was as a baby than to lie to her and tell her she was a perfect angel. She laughs about it and thinks it's hilarious, and says she acted that way bc she wanted to always be the youngest in the extended family.... so...

But you didn't put it on the internet and post complaints about her to thousands of people did you? I've told my daughter she was colicky, and my son knows that he was such a screamer before we got him on soy formula that his dad begged me not to leave him alone with him because he was afraid he might hurt him (that's more on his dad than him though). But I am able to say loving things about them without a disclaimer about what enfant terribles they were, and I am sure you can with your daughter. She almost _can't_ say anything nice about Brooks without adding that he drives her crazy-- he's fussy, he throws things (while they laugh and film it) he whines and cries. Yada yada yada. He's a small child, and likely reacting to the chaos in his environment. But even with her PhD in child psych, she can't see that?
Or maybe she has just gotten to BEC category with me.


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[Playsinrain]

That's a terrible thing to say! My brother said that if his second son had been born first, they only would have had one-- they didn't even have to baby proof with their first, and the second would try to climb anything he could and was fascinated with knives. But he never said it within earshot of his second son (or his first, and he certainly didn't say it on the internet!
And that whole thing with the worm pisses me off too. Worms definitely don't want to be clutched in little hands getting dried out, go down slides, or be "loved" by little kids. Or ripped in half. And what happens if she finds a snake? "Look mommy! I found a BIG worm!" After the way they terrified that poor frog in Florida, I can't say I am surprised. Way to teach respect for God's creatures, Katie!


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Welllll... I'm a terrible person bc i tell my daughter that she is straight up the reason we don't have more kids. She was a terrible baby, I make no excuses. Colic, reflux, never slept. super super needy and whiny... I mean i always tell her i wouldnt take a thing for her, but yeah I'm not ashamed to say my daughter knows she was a terrible infant and she scared baby fever right out of me. I'd rather be honest when she asks me how she was as a baby than to lie to her and tell her she was a perfect angel. She laughs about it and thinks it's hilarious, and says she acted that way bc she wanted to always be the youngest in the extended family.... so...

But you didn't put it on the internet and post complaints about her to thousands of people did you? I've told my daughter she was colicky, and my son knows that he was such a screamer before we got him on soy formula that his dad begged me not to leave him alone with him because he was afraid he might hurt him (that's more on his dad than him though). But I am able to say loving things about them without a disclaimer about what enfant terribles they were, and I am sure you can with your daughter. She almost _can't_ say anything nice about Brooks without adding that he drives her crazy-- he's fussy, he throws things (while they laugh and film it) he whines and cries. Yada yada yada. He's a small child, and likely reacting to the chaos in his environment. But even with her PhD in child psych, she can't see that?
Or maybe she has just gotten to BEC category with me.


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I've never had an online following of their size, but i probably would have complained about how terrible my daughter was to the small group of internet friends that i have now, if i had that community then. I do understand that she complains a lot about Brooks, but i don't doubt that she loves him, i don't think that she loves or cares for him any less than she does Gaines. There are a million things that, yes, Katie could do better. (Not laughing when he throws things, stepping away when he gets whiny instead of trying to appease him 24/7, cutting down the use of his Ba, instead of just using it to shut him up) But I've been there with a child like him and i'm more sympathetic about him than some other people might not be. I do feel like she is getting better with her posts about him, but i can 10000000000% relate with having a kid that makes you want to pull your hair out 90% of the day. She does bring some of that frustration on herself and she does need to teach him how to cope with things better and lay down some tougher rules. She probably shouldn't complain about him as much as she does, only bc she has a much broader audience than most. But i feel her pain and honestly, it makes me feel better about my trudging though the infant/toddler years with my difficult child. She's grown up to be a people pleasing, rule following, mother hen with above average intelligence.. she still is helpless (we constantly tell her she better choose a career that pays well enough for her to hire a housekeeper LOL) and whiny, a majorly picky eater and her hormones make her completely insufferable at times, but i still love her just as much as i love my easy going, cool as a cucumber, never cried, eats every thing in sight, slept though the night at 2 weeks old, never needed childproofing son. I wouldn't change a single thing about either of them! I think it's fine that Katie admits that she struggles with Brooks, i mean people here HOPED that she got a child like Brooks just bc Gaines was such a great, easy going baby. Just bc she has a larger platform doesn't mean she has to sugar coat things with him. Not all of it is Brooks' "fault" (like i said earlier, there are things she can do to prevent some of his issues) but it makes her more realistic to me, that she struggles with Brooks sometimes, i've been there and i appreciate her honesty.

[HelloSweetie]

I have a difficult child like Brookes, and while I occasionally remark to friends and family about how hard he can be, I'm not on social media posting for all to see, and I rarely lose sight of how badly he was wanted given that we struggled to have him. No one ever said raising kids would be easy, so mothers like Missy, Ellie and Katie who complain about their stronger willed and less compliant kids really get to me. Katie supposedly has all this guilt about her miscarriages and it makes her such a devoted mother that she can't take time for herself (I don't buy it but that has been said) and yet she had a healthy son and she is passive aggressively bitching about him all the time. There is a difference between telling a child they were a difficult baby when they are older, and basically making them the "bad one" in comparison to a golden child. Brookes needs more patience, acceptance and structure from his parents. A child like him desperately needs routine. That isn't his fault he isn't getting that... his selfish and lazy parents are to blame.


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[Playsinrain]

I have a difficult child like Brookes, and while I occasionally remark to friends and family about how hard he can be, I'm not on social media posting for all to see, and I rarely lose sight of how badly he was wanted given that we struggled to have him. No one ever said raising kids would be easy, so mothers like Missy, Ellie and Katie who complain about their stronger willed and less compliant kids really get to me. Katie supposedly has all this guilt about her miscarriages and it makes her such a devoted mother that she can't take time for herself (I don't buy it but that has been said) and yet she had a healthy son and she is passive aggressively bitching about him all the time. There is a difference between telling a child they were a difficult baby when they are older, and basically making them the "bad one" in comparison to a golden child. Brookes needs more patience, acceptance and structure from his parents. A child like him desperately needs routine. That isn't his fault he isn't getting that... his selfish and lazy parents are to blame.


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I agree he needs a much stricter routine. that was one thing that REALLY helped my daughter. It did suck when the inevitable happened and her routine was messed up, but all in all it was a life saver. If they would just do that for Brooks (and had done it since he was an infant) i think they would have a much happier kid all around.
It's not fair for Brooks to be the scapegoat, and to be "bad" all the time, but it's also not fair to Katie to never be able to vent about her struggles with Brooks. Just bc he was a very wanted child doesn't automatically make him easy to parent. I don't at all think that she loves him less or enjoys him less, i just think she's being honest (although sometimes i agree its over the top) about how he is difficult. I don't think that just bc a child was a struggle to conceive, or to carry to full term, that their mother isn't allowed to have frustrations or complain when they are being difficult. Even the most loved, wished and prayed for child on this earth has bad days and days where their parents think they are being buttholes. Every kid is an asshole at some point, and every parent has a right to complain when that kid is being an asshole. lol
Like i said, there are plenty of things that Katie and Cullen could change to make things easier for themselves and for Brooks, and i do think that Katie should word things differently sometimes, maybe not make EVERY post about how she loves him "even though" he's being a turd. But i would rather her vent and be honest about her feelings with him than to just smile and sugar coat it and talk about how he's fantastic and not any trouble at all. The people who wished a difficult child on her got what they wanted.

[HelloSweetie]

I have a difficult child like Brookes, and while I occasionally remark to friends and family about how hard he can be, I'm not on social media posting for all to see, and I rarely lose sight of how badly he was wanted given that we struggled to have him. No one ever said raising kids would be easy, so mothers like Missy, Ellie and Katie who complain about their stronger willed and less compliant kids really get to me. Katie supposedly has all this guilt about her miscarriages and it makes her such a devoted mother that she can't take time for herself (I don't buy it but that has been said) and yet she had a healthy son and she is passive aggressively bitching about him all the time. There is a difference between telling a child they were a difficult baby when they are older, and basically making them the "bad one" in comparison to a golden child. Brookes needs more patience, acceptance and structure from his parents. A child like him desperately needs routine. That isn't his fault he isn't getting that... his selfish and lazy parents are to blame.


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I agree he needs a much stricter routine. that was one thing that REALLY helped my daughter. It did suck when the inevitable happened and her routine was messed up, but all in all it was a life saver. If they would just do that for Brooks (and had done it since he was an infant) i think they would have a much happier kid all around.
It's not fair for Brooks to be the scapegoat, and to be "bad" all the time, but it's also not fair to Katie to never be able to vent about her struggles with Brooks. Just bc he was a very wanted child doesn't automatically make him easy to parent. I don't at all think that she loves him less or enjoys him less, i just think she's being honest (although sometimes i agree its over the top) about how he is difficult. I don't think that just bc a child was a struggle to conceive, or to carry to full term, that their mother isn't allowed to have frustrations or complain when they are being difficult. Even the most loved, wished and prayed for child on this earth has bad days and days where their parents think they are being buttholes. Every kid is an asshole at some point, and every parent has a right to complain when that kid is being an asshole. lol
Like i said, there are plenty of things that Katie and Cullen could change to make things easier for themselves and for Brooks, and i do think that Katie should word things differently sometimes, maybe not make EVERY post about how she loves him "even though" he's being a turd. But i would rather her vent and be honest about her feelings with him than to just smile and sugar coat it and talk about how he's fantastic and not any trouble at all. The people who wished a difficult child on her got what they wanted.

Venting occasionally is fine, but this isn't what Katie is doing. She isn't complaining about how hard motherhood in general is, or how tired the kids make her. It's ONE child that is continuously being scapegoated, while the other is placed on a pedestal and allowed to run the show. I think Katie views Brooks as Cullen, and MG as herself. MG can do no wrong just as Katie can't.

Mothers can absolutely talk to friends about how they feel, but I don't think the children need to be a party to that. Not on a daily basis anyway, and not when they can look back and see their equally demanding sister being catered to.


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[lmmomSD]

Exactly. _Nobody_, not even me, said she couldn't ever vent about him. But almost every day on social media, there's some complaint about him. And every nice thing she says is tempered by "He may be fussy/whiny/crabby, but..." And Gaines acts out a lot these days and is still their "angel".


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[HashtagBlessed]

Gosh, she doesn't want to take responsibility for anything, does she? Blaming her expired license and expired tags on the fact that they moved. It's not that hard to change your address with the DMV, and you shouldn't need a written reminder. The expiration date is right there. People make mistakes and sometimes stuff doesn't get done, but just own it. She makes a lot of excuses for why they're so dysfunctional.

I agree that the house will be on the market soon. And I wouldn't be surprised if a formal separation is coming. When it reaches a point where you are publicly struggling with your "marital issues" and talking about it on a regular basis on the internet, stuff must be really bad. Everyone gets frustrated with their partner and everyone has stresses in life that make it hard sometimes, but it seems that the bad times are outweighing the good times with these two.

[FitMom]

I could maybe see letting your driver’s license expire as that is a random date that isn’t every year. But, your tags are the same month every single year. That just shows how disorganized they are.

[Madsmom110]

I just could not feel sorry for Katie in this vlog. Brooks is 2. Doctors are scary places with people coming at you. And I love how she said the blip that as soon as the got in there BOTH kids started kicking each other, but Brooks is the "irritable" one.

Also, as many times as they've moved she doesn't realize you change your address with government agencies? That should be up there with getting your internet turned on on your list of to-dos. But no. It's not they're fault.

And I totally see Katie tapping out soon in their marriage. You can just see how over it she is in her face.

[Playsinrain]

Idk about Alabama but in GA your tag and licence expire on your birthday, tags yearly and Licence every 5-10 years (depending on which time frame you choose). Makes no difference when you buy your car or get your licence, it always expires on your birthday.. it's not like its easy to forget.

I drove on expired licence for a YEAR by accident one time... I had lost mine, and went and got it replaced, it was near (within 2 weeks) of them being expired so super observant me, i just assumed i had them renewed and not just replaced. I never looked at the expiration date (like a dumbass) it wasn't until almost a year to the date later, i went through a road block. Thank the LORD my cousin was one of the officers there at the stop and she was like ummmmmm did you know how expired these are?????? They let me go and i went the next Monday to get them renewed. Things like that happen but damn Katie just admit that you forgot, don't blame it on moving! That was a YEAR ago!

[FitMom]

Idk about Alabama but in GA your tag and licence expire on your birthday, tags yearly and Licence every 5-10 years (depending on which time frame you choose). Makes no difference when you buy your car or get your licence, it always expires on your birthday.. it's not like its easy to forget.

I drove on expired licence for a YEAR by accident one time... I had lost mine, and went and got it replaced, it was near (within 2 weeks) of them being expired so super observant me, i just assumed i had them renewed and not just replaced. I never looked at the expiration date (like a dumbass) it wasn't until almost a year to the date later, i went through a road block. Thank the LORD my cousin was one of the officers there at the stop and she was like ummmmmm did you know how expired these are?????? They let me go and i went the next Monday to get them renewed. Things like that happen but damn Katie just admit that you forgot, don't blame it on moving! That was a YEAR ago!

License is based on when you got it. We also now allow you to renew online depending if you haven’t renewed online the last time.

Tags are every year on the same month. Doesn’t matter if you move or get a new car like you said. It is based on your last name. So hers has always been the same month since they got married.

[irishmiss]

We all forget thinks like licenses, tags etc sometimes but they forgot all of those things! Not to mention the kids doc appts are 6 months late. And they are a family where both parents work part time from home. (IMO its part time hours at the most that they do!) It's actually getting concerning now to me about what else might be getting neglected beyond an acceptable level.

Katie made a comment in today's vlog in her chat at the end " I knew I'd probably be the only one vlogging today". To me that sounds like she knew from first thing this morning that Cullen would not be participating in life today which really makes it seem like he might have been up drinking half the night or is having severe depressive episodes. Also both kids went for Granddolly day...is that a first?