8 Passengers: No Rules & Private Schools | Part 9
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Kevin is the one who wrote that bs about blocking ppl. Good luck with your bratty kids then. He is just as balless as the other idiots married to a Griffiths.
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The one thing I’ve really ever admired about ruby is that she left up critical comments and actually responded to some of them. Guess that’ll be a thing of the past. Guess when things get too real she just calls in Kevin to do the blocking and deleting.Catface2 wrote:Kevin is the one who wrote that bs about blocking ppl. Good luck with your bratty kids then. He is just as balless as the other idiots married to a Griffiths.
Funny thing is, where is Kevin when they’re parenting...I get he works A LOT but he seems awfully checked out from the family. I found it a little alarming a few vlogs ago when he just texted ruby he was going to Alaska (I believe) because there was too good of a research opportunity to pass up and said that he may be missing the family Christmas party. Umm as a wife I’d be pissed about that. He’d already been gone for a while, it’s near the holidays, that’s a far trip, he’d be missing an important family event, and he didn’t even had the curtesy to call and discuss it first?! Just a text saying I’m going. I felt bad for Ruby and the kids. She’s the only big YouTuber I can think of that has a spouse with such a demanding, full time career. While I admire Kevin for not quitting his job once the YouTube money came in, it seems like he is using it as an excuse to spend lots of time away from the family. He definitely seems to enjoy all his business trips and summers off traveling, leaving Ruby behind to deal with 6 kids and a giant YouTube channel.
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Shari has an older sibling personality, were she thinks that because she is the oldest she thinks that she can boss anyone younger around. It just makes her look like a bitch.
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Re: Kevin being checked out. What continues to baffle me is how the majority of his kids are struggling at school both academic and disciplinary. As a family who's dad is a college professor and obsessed w/ keeping up appearances (a Griffith & LDS thing) is so seemingly important, their blatant disregard for education and broadcasting the kids academic failures to the world massivly confuses me. How could someone who has a PhD not give any craps that their kids can't even pass the most remedial standards for their grade. Do we think he has such tunnel vision when it comes to his own career he doesn't even know that is going on? It seems like something like this is something he should care about. Growing up, if any kids who's parents were either teachers or professors were struggling academically it was an embarrassment and addressed (or hidden) immediately. This family is so weird.
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I definitely agree with you.I get from her the attitude of I am better than you.5Twist98 wrote:Shari has an older sibling personality, were she thinks that because she is the oldest she thinks that she can boss anyone younger around. It just makes her look like a bitch.
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I think I am through with 8 Passengers except thru reading here. The whole Eve thing, the ignoring issues in their other children and now going to block people. That's like crapping in your own back yard. Eventually you will block your paying people enough and then your followers left will start to see the light then I guess ol Kevin can block them til they don't have the extra paycheck anymore.
Good luck with that...and those children of yours. Poor souls.
Good luck with that...and those children of yours. Poor souls.
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i truly think Ruby is telling Eve to misbehave for the camera. Sometimes when she is getting scolded she is just playing with toys and smiling at the camera like she knows its not serious. If ruby didnt want eve to come off as being a little brat she wouldnt be making the thumbnail and titles all about Eve misbehaving. Ruby has the kids constantly just repeating lines and i feel like if youve been watching their channel for a while you can tell when the kids are being sincere or just being told what to do.
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Her youngest strikes me as the kind of child who is incredibly bright, but needs extra help learning boundaries and how to empathize with others. If not, I think her intelligence turns to manipulation. She’s very precocious in some ways and is highly entertaining to watch, but probably a nightmare for her siblings to live with. She’s definitely not the type of child that I would say, “Oh well, you have to pick your battles, I’ll let her get away with it and she’ll learn eventually.”
At 5-years-old, she shows a striking lack of sensitivity for others and the effect her actions have on others. More so than I would expect to see in a child that age. Many people have said her maturity and impulse control is more in line with a two or three-year-old. I don’t know if she’ll grow up to be a criminal or a sociopath, but I think she needs extra guidance to understand the feelings of others, which I wouldn’t take lightly as a parent. Disciplining her on camera is a joke, because she appears more concerned with staring at herself in the viewfinder and putting on a show than actually listening.
Ruby’s own comment that she pinned on that most recent video...oh good grief. I think she needs to take a good, long look at what her videos portray, because I don’t see a functioning, well-adjusted family unit at all. Now, if there had been cameras following me around at 5-years-old or 15-years-old, I’m sure it wouldn’t always be pretty. But she really needs to put the camera away and be a real parent and not a stage mom. The comments are turning against her big time.
And as far as pointing to Shari and Chad as examples of their excellent parenting...that's another example of the parents being completely unaware of what their videos portray. It breaks my heart to watch her videos and see how Julie and Russel are constantly ganged up on and made fun of by their siblings. That's another area where a parent could discipline, but she seems to have a lord of the flies mentality. Being well-behaved is one thing, but what happened to teaching kindness?
Most recently, I watched a video who I can remember Shari was making fun of Julie for saying she would want her first kiss when she's 20, and Shari had a disgusted look on her face and told Julie that 20 is when you're MARRIED. (I hope Julie doesn't feel like she needs to be married at 20.) Julie is nine! It's completely age appropriate for her not to be thinking about kissing boys any time soon and for her to "guess" that 20 is the right age to do so. Shari is 15 and shouldn't be shaming her nine-year-old sister for being naive about boys and physical affection. But hey, I guess if you expect to be married at the ripe old age of 20, maybe you're expected to grow up a lost faster. (The number of videos alone about her children kissing is disturbing.)
I also remember when Chad was making a big deal about not wanting to draw Russel's name for the sibling gift exchange, and then Shari and Ruby were giving disgusted looks at the camera over Russel being enamored with the toy trucks at Target because they felt like that was immature or not age appropriate. You know what's immature? Trying to embarrass a 9-year-old and a 7-year-old. Let them be kids. We let my 10-year-old nephew go to the toy store and pick out any gift he wanted, and he picked out a bunch of toy cars and trucks. Again, totally age appropriate, whereas making fun of small children as a teenager is decidedly cruel.
At 5-years-old, she shows a striking lack of sensitivity for others and the effect her actions have on others. More so than I would expect to see in a child that age. Many people have said her maturity and impulse control is more in line with a two or three-year-old. I don’t know if she’ll grow up to be a criminal or a sociopath, but I think she needs extra guidance to understand the feelings of others, which I wouldn’t take lightly as a parent. Disciplining her on camera is a joke, because she appears more concerned with staring at herself in the viewfinder and putting on a show than actually listening.
Ruby’s own comment that she pinned on that most recent video...oh good grief. I think she needs to take a good, long look at what her videos portray, because I don’t see a functioning, well-adjusted family unit at all. Now, if there had been cameras following me around at 5-years-old or 15-years-old, I’m sure it wouldn’t always be pretty. But she really needs to put the camera away and be a real parent and not a stage mom. The comments are turning against her big time.
And as far as pointing to Shari and Chad as examples of their excellent parenting...that's another example of the parents being completely unaware of what their videos portray. It breaks my heart to watch her videos and see how Julie and Russel are constantly ganged up on and made fun of by their siblings. That's another area where a parent could discipline, but she seems to have a lord of the flies mentality. Being well-behaved is one thing, but what happened to teaching kindness?
Most recently, I watched a video who I can remember Shari was making fun of Julie for saying she would want her first kiss when she's 20, and Shari had a disgusted look on her face and told Julie that 20 is when you're MARRIED. (I hope Julie doesn't feel like she needs to be married at 20.) Julie is nine! It's completely age appropriate for her not to be thinking about kissing boys any time soon and for her to "guess" that 20 is the right age to do so. Shari is 15 and shouldn't be shaming her nine-year-old sister for being naive about boys and physical affection. But hey, I guess if you expect to be married at the ripe old age of 20, maybe you're expected to grow up a lost faster. (The number of videos alone about her children kissing is disturbing.)
I also remember when Chad was making a big deal about not wanting to draw Russel's name for the sibling gift exchange, and then Shari and Ruby were giving disgusted looks at the camera over Russel being enamored with the toy trucks at Target because they felt like that was immature or not age appropriate. You know what's immature? Trying to embarrass a 9-year-old and a 7-year-old. Let them be kids. We let my 10-year-old nephew go to the toy store and pick out any gift he wanted, and he picked out a bunch of toy cars and trucks. Again, totally age appropriate, whereas making fun of small children as a teenager is decidedly cruel.
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I had to watch after reading here. I'm so proud of Russel. Didn't know he could read so well.
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Did anyone watch the sibling gift exchange video? I thought it was alright, though I didn't like the fact that Eve was so eager to touch everyone's presents. I understand that she's a child, but she should know about boundaries and personal space.
I loved how happy Russell was. Shari did a good job of picking out some presents he would enjoy. I felt badly about their name draw the other week because none of them wanted Russell. Perhaps if they stopped reducing him to a child who overreacts and should get a puzzle, they'd know what he might/already does like.
Also, I've been here a while, I've just not posted.
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I loved how happy Russell was. Shari did a good job of picking out some presents he would enjoy. I felt badly about their name draw the other week because none of them wanted Russell. Perhaps if they stopped reducing him to a child who overreacts and should get a puzzle, they'd know what he might/already does like.
Also, I've been here a while, I've just not posted.
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Welcome! Don't be shy. Snark away!warmhearted wrote:Did anyone watch the sibling gift exchange video? I thought it was alright, though I didn't like the fact that Eve was so eager to touch everyone's presents. I understand that she's a child, but she should know about boundaries and personal space.
I loved how happy Russell was. Shari did a good job of picking out some presents he would enjoy. I felt badly about their name draw the other week because none of them wanted Russell. Perhaps if they stopped reducing him to a child who overreacts and should get a puzzle, they'd know what he might/already does like.
Also, I've been here a while, I've just not posted.
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I got blocked from my first vlogger instagram! On Christmas, no less! Shout out to 8 passengers who spent their Christmas blocking people! Lollllllll
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I am just curious what did you say.I wonder which kid leaves when they are 18.Have no contact with Ruby and Kevin.Sweetiebee wrote:I got blocked from my first vlogger instagram! On Christmas, no less! Shout out to 8 passengers who spent their Christmas blocking people! Lollllllll
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Kevin had said that they were sure they were not raising a criminal (Eve). I said "you're right, she won't be a criminal, but it's not fair to her if other kids don't like her (when she gets to school) because she's allowed to act however she wants at home all the time."Tmmymcdaniel12345 wrote:I am just curious what did you say.I wonder which kid leaves when they are 18.Have no contact with Ruby and Kevin.Sweetiebee wrote:I got blocked from my first vlogger instagram! On Christmas, no less! Shout out to 8 passengers who spent their Christmas blocking people! Lollllllll
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Oh my lord, I would have been so embarrassed if Eve was my kid up during that dance recital. We’ve seen a dozen viral videos of kids being extra cute or getting nervous during and not participating during shows but Eve was none of those. She just looked out of control, especially when every other kid was following along and the child next to her was trying to tell her to get back in line. There were tons of cuts too, so I’m sure it was even worse than what we saw. We saw the same thing when she did cheer camp, so Ruby’s parenting techniques have led to zero improvement in direction following since then. Further proof she can’t follow directions and is going to be a major issue when she starts school. And of course Kevin encouraged the behavior when it finished and he told her his favorite part was her running behind the balloons. I know that wasn’t an appropriate time to punish or correct the behavior but he certainly didn’t need to congratulate her on it.
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She won't understand consequences if she doesn't learn them now. Her faults are being praised and she's learning that it's cute to run around shops and act out at home. It makes for good vlogging content...that's why she's encouraged to do certain things. And even sometimes I believe situations are staged so that a message can get across without it "randomly" being brought up.
I remember a few weeks ago when Eve had to bring in something beginning with the letter "U". I think Ruby had a quick conversation with her about why underwear/undershorts isn't appropriate to bring in, and then she turned on the camera and mentioned bringing in underwear. That obviously yields the reaction of Eve telling Ruby it's not appropriate. Sometimes I think things like this are staged because they don't have much reason to make videos on these topics, so they act like they just come up out of nowhere.
And lastly, I think all of this is quite common in parents (esp mothers) who have their last child and have friends and family still having children. They are surrounded by babies, and those families are getting attention and footage etc, and the families with children older than 4/5 become a bit less interesting to those looking for some cute parent/baby interaction. So these parents try to "preserve" their children and their innocence for as long as possible, but this never really works. They want their baby to stay their baby forever, and it's damaging to the kids. The "baby" never learns consequences, right from wrong, rejection, failure, etc., while the older kids lack attention, or in some cases feel entitled in certain situations, and this can lead to them "rebelling" against family values. I don't know. This situation just doesn't look right to me. Of course I don't live there and I don't see their every minute, but their actions and inactions have consequences and they aren't being acknowledged by anyone but the people who got them to where they are.
I remember a few weeks ago when Eve had to bring in something beginning with the letter "U". I think Ruby had a quick conversation with her about why underwear/undershorts isn't appropriate to bring in, and then she turned on the camera and mentioned bringing in underwear. That obviously yields the reaction of Eve telling Ruby it's not appropriate. Sometimes I think things like this are staged because they don't have much reason to make videos on these topics, so they act like they just come up out of nowhere.
And lastly, I think all of this is quite common in parents (esp mothers) who have their last child and have friends and family still having children. They are surrounded by babies, and those families are getting attention and footage etc, and the families with children older than 4/5 become a bit less interesting to those looking for some cute parent/baby interaction. So these parents try to "preserve" their children and their innocence for as long as possible, but this never really works. They want their baby to stay their baby forever, and it's damaging to the kids. The "baby" never learns consequences, right from wrong, rejection, failure, etc., while the older kids lack attention, or in some cases feel entitled in certain situations, and this can lead to them "rebelling" against family values. I don't know. This situation just doesn't look right to me. Of course I don't live there and I don't see their every minute, but their actions and inactions have consequences and they aren't being acknowledged by anyone but the people who got them to where they are.
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Exactly. A lot of her poor behavior is clearly encouraged or staged. That’s why I think it’s bullshit for Ruby and Kevin to be mad at viewers for pointing out the obvious. They literally type cast their own kid as the naughty child in their own vlogs. They portray her as a rebellious, spoiled brat who acts out on a daily basis. Ruby plays the tender, loving mother who uses gentle parenting to guide her to make the right decisions. They see that Eve acting out sparks controversy and just keep posting more and more of it. That’s completely on them, not the viewers. As the parents, they have complete control to discipline her appropriately and cut out parts where she’s acting like a little menace. The world did not need to see her climbing up a play set display at Costco, running off in stores, tearing open presents, putting a used binky in her mouth...put the freaking camera away and parent. Eve has come to associate the poor behavior with attention and camera time. She acts out and doesn’t appear to get in trouble but instead her mom says hold up let me get the camera and then coaches her through the “scene”. Ruby knows what brings in the views so she keeps encouraging poor behavior at home and posting it for the world to see. Eve will certainly suffer in the future for her parents choices now.warmhearted wrote:She won't understand consequences if she doesn't learn them now. Her faults are being praised and she's learning that it's cute to run around shops and act out at home. It makes for good vlogging content...that's why she's encouraged to do certain things. And even sometimes I believe situations are staged so that a message can get across without it "randomly" being brought up.
I remember a few weeks ago when Eve had to bring in something beginning with the letter "U". I think Ruby had a quick conversation with her about why underwear/undershorts isn't appropriate to bring in, and then she turned on the camera and mentioned bringing in underwear. That obviously yields the reaction of Eve telling Ruby it's not appropriate. Sometimes I think things like this are staged because they don't have much reason to make videos on these topics, so they act like they just come up out of nowhere.
And lastly, I think all of this is quite common in parents (esp mothers) who have their last child and have friends and family still having children. They are surrounded by babies, and those families are getting attention and footage etc, and the families with children older than 4/5 become a bit less interesting to those looking for some cute parent/baby interaction. So these parents try to "preserve" their children and their innocence for as long as possible, but this never really works. They want their baby to stay their baby forever, and it's damaging to the kids. The "baby" never learns consequences, right from wrong, rejection, failure, etc., while the older kids lack attention, or in some cases feel entitled in certain situations, and this can lead to them "rebelling" against family values. I don't know. This situation just doesn't look right to me. Of course I don't live there and I don't see their every minute, but their actions and inactions have consequences and they aren't being acknowledged by anyone but the people who got them to where they are.
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Right. They seem to be playing characters: Kevin's the dad who happens to be there to save the day at just the right time, Ruby's the quirky but caring mother just trying her best, Shari's the genius, Chad's the jock, Abby's the kind one, Julie's the sensitive one, Russel's the curious one, and Eve's the one who keeps them on their feet. I don't agree with any of these "stereotypes", really. I mean, I do really like Abby. She has her moments but she's 11 and that is normal. However, she is such a nice kid. I've watched them for a while and she's always the one blamed and has to apologize for something (ie Julie taking her sweater and then Abby having to apologize for it?!) The same goes for Julie. I think she has low confidence, but she isn't getting the help she needs. None of these kids really are. In reality, I think Chad acts quite entitled in a different way than Shari does. I think the pair of them know they're "liked" among their community (because they're part of the blessed Griffiths family!!) and their school, so they act cocky and such. And as for the two younger ones, their more formative years have been spent entirely on camera in a commercialized way (Eve especially).Tiger27 wrote:warmhearted wrote: They literally type cast their own kid as the naughty child in their own vlogs. They portray her as a rebellious, spoiled brat who acts out on a daily basis.
They're so keen about the older kids being terrific etc, but they can't seem to understand that the older kids didn't grow up with cameras in their faces 24/7 and the idea that they're a brand and not just a family. They preach that they're genuine people who are simply sharing their family with the world, but I don't recall "a few home videos" including merchandise, meet and greets, tours, "fans", etc. It's so strange now that children grow up in front of the whole world, with no out option. They don't get to choose much of what happens to them, and unfortunately they're really the ones suffering the consequences.
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So tell me... the last 3 videos have really displayed Eves behavior. Youtubers benefit from what's called "engagement" on their channel. Eves behavior garners a TON of comments on youtube and instagram. Therefore, I believe I am correct in assuming that they are quite literally (and knowingly) exploiting their 5 year old.
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But now they are going to block people who comment on her behavior. So aren't they biting the hand that feeds them?Sweetiebee wrote:So tell me... the last 3 videos have really displayed Eves behavior. Youtubers benefit from what's called "engagement" on their channel. Eves behavior garners a TON of comments on youtube and instagram. Therefore, I believe I am correct in assuming that they are quite literally (and knowingly) exploiting their 5 year old.
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