The Lindquists

[Seriouslysweetie]

She just replied to the girl on Insta. Elle claims that affordable brands can be ethical too hence her partnership with Joe Fresh. Never ever I have heard from any of her lectures that she said that. She has always emphasized that quality comes with a price that is worth saving for.

What she projects as her aesthetic in social media is different from what she sponsors. Period. It's clear as day. She doesn't get it. I really couldn't care less about it except she makes money off this behavior and people fall for it. So annoying.

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[pupz]

The only way to respond to this behaviour is to thumbs-down her videos.

[Notablogger]

Where did she say her assumptions video was coming out tomorrow?

[Seriouslysweetie]

Where did she say her assumptions video was coming out tomorrow?

She mentioned it at the end of one of her videos this week. I forget which one.

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[TeachIT]

Trash. Her assumptions video is where she basically tells us she’s an amazing woman. Although she did address mine at least, just with her normal trash answers.

Also - criticism is abuse now! FYI

[Seriouslysweetie]

I haven't finished the video yet as I have other things to do this morning. But so far she admits that she has anxiety (I'm not judging her for that), she is controlling in every aspect of her life and relationships and she thinks criticism is abuse. That last one got me stumped. Taking criticism well is how we grow. She should really bring that up to her therapist.

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[TeachIT]

I haven't finished the video yet as I have other things to do this morning. But so far she admits that she has anxiety (I'm not judging her for that), she is controlling in every aspect of her life and relationships and she thinks criticism is abuse. That last one got me stumped. Taking criticism well is how we grow. She should really bring that up to her therapist.

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But even the things she admits, she sugar coats. “I’m controlling BUT I’m working on it and hope to be over it this year”

I’m controlling too. I had an abusive childhood too. My therapist has made it clear it isn’t something you just stop doing. It’s a lifelong process and something I’ll need to be accountable and work on forever. But she can’t stand the fact that she might be imperfect forever, so she treats it like a cold that she will just clear up really fast.

I wonder if her therapist is just really awful or if Elle is in denial.

[Margie]

Hahaha she used all the joe fresh examples for criticism in her video!!! She put those in there for sure because of this site, because later on she mentions how she doesn’t gossip and that’s why she doesn’t like gossip sites... hmmm. Hi Elle! You should just join our conversation here. We would chat openly on your platforms, but that gives you too much control. Let go of your control freak nature and come hash it out here for a bit!

[okaythatlldo]

Oh my fucking god, you guys. The assumptions about me vlog is a FUCKING GOLDMINE, I don’t even know where to begin!!!!! But I have to say I think the fact that this is a 37 minute vlog says it all!


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[Skinnie]

Hmmm.
Overall, I appreciated the relaxed style of this video... much better than most of her recent content.
I REALLY applaud those who actually posed interesting assumptions... not the crazed fans who just used this opportunity to kiss her butt with compliments??? How boring and uninformative would that have been??? It is like crazed tweens with a crush: You are the perfect mom, you look amazing all the time, you have the cleanest house, you have the perfect marriage, you are the most loving, charitable person etc. etc. Way to miss an opportunity for clarity on deeper issues.

I think Elle was trying to be somewhat honest and open in this video; but perhaps she is a bit deluded about herself. Fair enough. I appreciated her acknowledging her tendency toward being controlling and her moments of being an imperfect mom. She totally opened herself up to some viewer upset when she said she was not religious, supported same-sex marriage, and is pro vaccine...oh the controversy! I think her comment section may get active.
I think her being ultra selective about sponsorships is bs--but that would be really hard to admit that you were willing to put some of your values aside for money. Also re:physical appearance: if she really feels uncomfortable with comments on her appearance then why does she post so many instagram pictures of herself with her body/face posed...not just natural/candid shots? That seemed kinda contradictory. I found it particularly bizarre when she was talking about being upfront when she mentioned gossip sites-- ugh, does she not see she created the situation? SHE READILY BLOCKS/DELETES COMMENTS. This is more of her controlling behaviour--she should just let people share their thoughts/opinions freely(and only censor major offenses like threats/coarse language). People who have negative feelings about her content should not be considered abusive... criticism is NOT verbal abuse as she claims...just cause she does not like it and it can feel unpleasant does not mean it is abuse. I hope she works on this and in the meantime does not have any issues with her children's teachers/school mate's parents because sometimes truth is hard to hear... and you cannot just negate what is being said because you do not like it. Also, has she ever considered that maybe her viewers feel used and abused by her when she is so contradictory and hypocritical?

Many times her logic does not make sense and these conflicting mixed messages are very upsetting and confusing to her audience--saying 'I am upper middle class yet cannot afford to be wholly sustainable/ethical in my purchases'...and yet 'the poor should aim to shop ethically/sustainably' ... 'I am a minimalist who shops as a sport' HUH??? How does she reconcile this?
[The fact that she talks about people(herself) in terms of what economic class they belong to is also a bit weird to me]
I think the TRUTH is: she CAN afford whatever but wants to be relatable and not alienate most of her viewership and accept sponsorships from brands that serve the large population of lower/middle income brackets.
Also, I think she should adopt a more honest policy of refusing to discuss a topic rather than lie. She and Dan could clearly afford IVF if they had needed/wanted it to conceive... their reservations were not financial as she had claimed.

Ugh. Rant over. As a fellow mom with a toddler who started watching since Cohen is close in age, I am just really disappointed in someone I had once really enjoyed watching and trusted; as I am sure many on this forum are.

[Skinnie]

Hmmm.
Overall, I appreciated the relaxed style of this video... much better than most of her recent content.
I REALLY applaud those who actually posed interesting assumptions... not the crazed fans who just used this opportunity to kiss her butt with compliments??? How boring and uninformative would that have been??? It is like crazed tweens with a crush: You are the perfect mom, you look amazing all the time, you have the cleanest house, you have the perfect marriage, you are the most loving, charitable person etc. etc. Way to miss an opportunity for clarity on deeper issues.

I think Elle was trying to be somewhat honest and open in this video; but perhaps she is a bit deluded about herself. Fair enough. I appreciated her acknowledging her tendency toward being controlling and her moments of being an imperfect mom. She totally opened herself up to some viewer upset when she said she was not religious, supported same-sex marriage, and is pro vaccine...oh the controversy! I think her comment section may get active.
I think her being ultra selective about sponsorships is bs--but that would be really hard to admit that you were willing to put some of your values aside for money. Also re:physical appearance: if she really feels uncomfortable with comments on her appearance then why does she post so many instagram pictures of herself with her body/face posed...not just natural/candid shots? That seemed kinda contradictory. I found it particularly bizarre when she was talking about being upfront when she mentioned gossip sites-- ugh, does she not see she created the situation? SHE READILY BLOCKS/DELETES COMMENTS. This is more of her controlling behaviour--she should just let people share their thoughts/opinions freely(and only censor major offenses like threats/coarse language). People who have negative feelings about her content should not be considered abusive... criticism is NOT verbal abuse as she claims...just cause she does not like it and it can feel unpleasant does not mean it is abuse. I hope she works on this and in the meantime does not have any issues with her children's teachers/school mate's parents because sometimes truth is hard to hear... and you cannot just negate what is being said because you do not like it. Also, has she ever considered that maybe her viewers feel used and abused by her when she is so contradictory and hypocritical?

Many times her logic does not make sense and these conflicting mixed messages are very upsetting and confusing to her audience--saying 'I am upper middle class yet cannot afford to be wholly sustainable/ethical in my purchases'...and yet 'the poor should aim to shop ethically/sustainably' ... 'I am a minimalist who shops as a sport' HUH??? How does she reconcile this?
[The fact that she talks about people(herself) in terms of what economic class they belong to is also a bit weird to me]
I think the TRUTH is: she CAN afford whatever but wants to be relatable and not alienate most of her viewership and accept sponsorships from brands that serve the large population of lower/middle income brackets.
Also, I think she should adopt a more honest policy of refusing to discuss a topic rather than lie. She and Dan could clearly afford IVF if they had needed/wanted it to conceive... their reservations were not financial as she had claimed.

Ugh. Rant over. As a fellow mom with a toddler who started watching since Cohen is close in age, I am just really disappointed in someone I had once really enjoyed watching and trusted; as I am sure many on this forum are.

[Notablogger]

I agree with all of your sentiments. I think she did try to be honest and real but that is where the problem lies. She was trying to be honest and it didn’t always feel genuine or she gave answers with half truths.

I do appreciate the areas where she did seem to be replying to us here. It shows she visits and has pre thought out her responses to us, would she actually admit to coming back on here. I honestly think this whole video was made as a way to respond to us without admitting she still frequents here.

She “answered” my assumption but once again only did it as a half truth. I feel like she left out a chunk of the answer.

It’s fine I mean no one is perfect and no one is completely self aware. I watch her videos because there is something I like about her but recently found more things to become unappealing.

[Skinnie]

I agree with all of your sentiments. I think she did try to be honest and real but that is where the problem lies. She was trying to be honest and it didn’t always feel genuine or she gave answers with half truths.

I do appreciate the areas where she did seem to be replying to us here. It shows she visits and has pre thought out her responses to us, would she actually admit to coming back on here. I honestly think this whole video was made as a way to respond to us without admitting she still frequents here.

She “answered” my assumption but once again only did it as a half truth. I feel like she left out a chunk of the answer.

It’s fine I mean no one is perfect and no one is completely self aware. I watch her videos because there is something I like about her but recently found more things to become unappealing.

Same here. I used to watch religiously. I just cannot tolerate so many sponsorships with questionable products and feel like she is being fake when I wish she would just be honest and straight forward--flaws and all.

[okaythatlldo]

I could see that she was trying to be genuine but I think as someone else pointed out, that’s part of the problem. She’s trying to be vulnerable...but in the best possible light. Admitting to faults, but only those faults that literally everyone is guilty of (like yelling at your kids or needing to apologize every once in awhile).

Everything sounds like a regurgitation of lessons she’s learned in therapy, but all the underlying issues are still driving her actions and this is why she’s so contradictory and deluded. I wonder what her therapist’s opinion is about Elle being on YouTube. I don’t think Elle can ever make a full mental health recovery if her YouTube image is feeding all the issues her mother’s abuse has caused, such as fear of abandonment, people pleasing, maintaining an image, needing approval, being in control, etc.

I feel like I could write an entire thesis on this girl. There’s just so. much. material.




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[Margie]

I could see that she was trying to be genuine but I think as someone else pointed out, that’s part of the problem. She’s trying to be vulnerable...but in the best possible light. Admitting to faults, but only those faults that literally everyone is guilty of (like yelling at your kids or needing to apologize every once in awhile).

Everything sounds like a regurgitation of lessons she’s learned in therapy, but all the underlying issues are still driving her actions and this is why she’s so contradictory and deluded. I wonder what her therapist’s opinion is about Elle being on YouTube. I don’t think Elle can ever make a full mental health recovery if her YouTube image is feeding all the issues her mother’s abuse has caused, such as fear of abandonment, people pleasing, maintaining an image, needing approval, being in control, etc.

I feel like I could write an entire thesis on this girl. There’s just so. much. material.




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YES!!! I also feel like I could write a thesis on her any psych students among us?! Here is your subject! Lol and I often wonder what her therapist thinks of her career as well. It’s so obvious that she started on YouTube to get a false sense of validation and she is still seeking validation. If her therapist was any good, she would have told Elle to at least take a break from YouTube, and honestly, I think she probably has told Elle that, she just chooses not to listen because #girlsgottaeat and needs that paycheque!

[okaythatlldo]

I could see that she was trying to be genuine but I think as someone else pointed out, that’s part of the problem. She’s trying to be vulnerable...but in the best possible light. Admitting to faults, but only those faults that literally everyone is guilty of (like yelling at your kids or needing to apologize every once in awhile).

Everything sounds like a regurgitation of lessons she’s learned in therapy, but all the underlying issues are still driving her actions and this is why she’s so contradictory and deluded. I wonder what her therapist’s opinion is about Elle being on YouTube. I don’t think Elle can ever make a full mental health recovery if her YouTube image is feeding all the issues her mother’s abuse has caused, such as fear of abandonment, people pleasing, maintaining an image, needing approval, being in control, etc.

I feel like I could write an entire thesis on this girl. There’s just so. much. material.




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YES!!! I also feel like I could write a thesis on her any psych students among us?! Here is your subject! Lol and I often wonder what her therapist thinks of her career as well. It’s so obvious that she started on YouTube to get a false sense of validation and she is still seeking validation. If her therapist was any good, she would have told Elle to at least take a break from YouTube, and honestly, I think she probably has told Elle that, she just chooses not to listen because #girlsgottaeat and needs that paycheque!

YUP I feel like she thinks this mission to “empower women” is justification to continue. As long as she puts it in that framework for herself, she’s selfless and selflessness is healthy behaviour.


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[Seriouslysweetie]

My husband overheard Elle talking when I was continued watching her video. He commented that she seems like a wishy washy person to him and those answers contradicts a lot of her previous statements. He has never seen any of her videos before.

Like everyone here I appreciate that she was honest. Also like everyone else, she has blind spots that unfortunately people like us point out because she made herself a public figure. My husband said it perfectly when he mentioned that Elle most likely is forced to compromise her values because YouTube is her bread and butter. He said she might be doing it unknowingly as well as how important her image is to her.

To me, her not taking compliments well and putting herself down as a reply is a sign of wanting validation. It's too bad she thinks that we all have decided on what type of person she is and she thinks she just needs to shut us out. I know all of us her were genuine viewers that over time were confused with her content she is putting out. I still would watch her, I'm just going to continue to be more selective.

Ok rant over, thanks for listening!!!!

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[Margie]

My husband overheard Elle talking when I was continued watching her video. He commented that she seems like a wishy washy person to him and those answers contradicts a lot of her previous statements. He has never seen any of her videos before.

Like everyone here I appreciate that she was honest. Also like everyone else, she has blind spots that unfortunately people like us point out because she made herself a public figure. My husband said it perfectly when he mentioned that Elle most likely is forced to compromise her values because YouTube is her bread and butter. He said she might be doing it unknowingly as well as how important her image is to her.

To me, her not taking compliments well and putting herself down as a reply is a sign of wanting validation. It's too bad she thinks that we all have decided on what type of person she is and she thinks she just needs to shut us out. I know all of us her were genuine viewers that over time were confused with her content she is putting out. I still would watch her, I'm just going to continue to be more selective.

Ok rant over, thanks for listening!!!!

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This comment! Yes! My husband also makes many comments when I’m watching Elle’s videos. He’s not a fan, probably because in the small amount he has heard, his very practical brain has sensed her nature. Too bad it took me so long. I also was a genuine viewer for years! And in Elle’s defence, she’s not the only one who has succumbed to the marketing BS that is YouTube. I just wish that they would be honest. And not only with us, but with themselves. Like, just say, “yea I did partner with that one company one time and it was weird. I’m going to try and discern better in the future.” Her biggest flaw is that she feels she can’t make mistakes, which in turn makes her unrelatable and makes her mistakes stand out that much more. I mean, I get that she wants to make money, if I could make money from YouTube I would too, but for the love of God, she needs to stop preaching one thing and then taking money for the next. This whole joe fresh thing, and her partnership with the bread company and sobeys. Give me a break! I get that she wants the money, but doing this kind of business is shady as hell, and she thinks it’s all good now, but if she keeps it up she won’t have any business at all. Honesty with herself and her viewers would go over a hell of a lot better.
I think all of it stems from her people pleasing nature. People pleasers tend to be complete flakes.

[TeachIT]

She asked for assumptions but her replies in the comments of the video so that she was at least slightly offended by some of them. So why ask?

[Orangeorchid]

I’m just catching up.. first of all, the body image assumption.. totally don’t buy that she’s not looking for validation with all those belly shots. She even went out of her way to say that she could still see her abs during her whole pregnancy. Congratulations Elle. And who could forget the story of her asking how she should take pictures.. sticking out, normal, engaging or sucking in?! This just goes to show how much time she spends obsessing over her body. I agree that body image issues/eating disorder is still alive and well here.

Also I also find it suspicious that no one asked her assumptions about Dans side of the family? She defintely skipped over those...