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webbygurl626 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:38 pm
So if he won’t watch her for twenty minutes did he even want children or does he just do his own thing all the time and Joan doesn’t tell him when she needs help?
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It appears this is constant. Joan has taken over all Care except for designated times. Like these. But John keeps bailing and goes biking instead.
Joan will lose her mind when she has lack of sleep, a crying newborn and vera who will be so used to constant attention and “enrichment activities” that she will also be a mess.
John got angry when vera was little and couldn’t handle all her crying and she was like “the perfect baby” so I have No idea how they think it’s the slightest bit okay or sane to be doing IVF.
Joan this is a pattern since John left during your pregnancy with Maeve which you keep forgetting about.....
Their relationship is toxic. Has nothing to do with IVF or Maeve.
Vera will be growing up in a home with this kind of energy.
What specifically has she said/ posted about him leaving in the pregnancy? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but never known specifics
Whyyyy does she have to post about Maeve like every other day? That cannot be normal. Seriously. She needs to move on! Of course she can miss her and grieve for her sometimes but this constant posting about her and talking about her when she has Vera to post about is not normal! And she wants to bring another baby into this. Scary. So will Vera be the one that is forgotten about when the new baby comes? Cuz you know she’ll never stop talking about Maeve. Even though that is not heathy at all. I won’t even get started on the John thing. How do they think it’s okay to bring another baby into this?
Bored2018 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:27 am
Whyyyy does she have to post about Maeve like every other day? That cannot be normal. Seriously. She needs to move on! Of course she can miss her and grieve for her sometimes but this constant posting about her and talking about her when she has Vera to post about is not normal! And she wants to bring another baby into this. Scary. So will Vera be the one that is forgotten about when the new baby comes? Cuz you know she’ll never stop talking about Maeve. Even though that is not heathy at all. I won’t even get started on the John thing. How do they think it’s okay to bring another baby into this?
I truly think that Vera will be the lesser child. Maeve is everything and if she ends up with only one more child then that will be the miracle last child. Poor Vera.
1000Words wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:11 amIt appears this is constant. Joan has taken over all Care except for designated times. Like these. But John keeps bailing and goes biking instead.
Joan will lose her mind when she has lack of sleep, a crying newborn and vera who will be so used to constant attention and “enrichment activities” that she will also be a mess.
John got angry when vera was little and couldn’t handle all her crying and she was like “the perfect baby” so I have No idea how they think it’s the slightest bit okay or sane to be doing IVF.
Joan this is a pattern since John left during your pregnancy with Maeve which you keep forgetting about.....
Their relationship is toxic. Has nothing to do with IVF or Maeve.
Vera will be growing up in a home with this kind of energy.
They should wait another year or so to implant the first embryo so they can have more time for the dust to settle from this IVF process and also because Vera may be in preschool and a bit more independent. But no, they have to do it after Joan has only three cycles.
webbygurl626 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:38 pm
So if he won’t watch her for twenty minutes did he even want children or does he just do his own thing all the time and Joan doesn’t tell him when she needs help?
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It appears this is constant. Joan has taken over all Care except for designated times. Like these. But John keeps bailing and goes biking instead.
Joan will lose her mind when she has lack of sleep, a crying newborn and vera who will be so used to constant attention and “enrichment activities” that she will also be a mess.
John got angry when vera was little and couldn’t handle all her crying and she was like “the perfect baby” so I have No idea how they think it’s the slightest bit okay or sane to be doing IVF.
Joan this is a pattern since John left during your pregnancy with Maeve which you keep forgetting about.....
Their relationship is toxic. Has nothing to do with IVF or Maeve.
Vera will be growing up in a home with this kind of energy.
What specifically has she said/ posted about him leaving in the pregnancy? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but never known specifics
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I don't Know what she’s posted but all of us who know her personally know that When she was pregnant John left and she was ready to raise Maeve on her own. His mental health was an issue believe it or not. He was mean and unready for children.
She acts like Maeve’s pregnancy birth was perfect but he was very childish and semi abusive.
It wasn’t a good situation
Spoink_12 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:11 am
Wasn't she still born?
This comment makes it sound like the was born alive and then passed away after.
Oh my word! I don't think she has said anything like that before. Yes, she was stillborn. In some posts in the past you get the vibe that (in Joan's head) she was alive.
Am I getting confused now? Was she alive? Two things I don't think I've heard her actually say are "she died (so and so minuites/hours) after birth" or, and I'm surprised she hasn't said this "I've birthed a dead baby"
I've always thought that she was still born, never alive outside womb.
Also, Deducing from pictures she shares, I wouldn't think that baby ever draw her first breath
Spoink_12 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:11 am
Wasn't she still born?
This comment makes it sound like the was born alive and then passed away after.
Oh my word! I don't think she has said anything like that before. Yes, she was stillborn. In some posts in the past you get the vibe that (in Joan's head) she was alive.
Am I getting confused now? Was she alive? Two things I don't think I've heard her actually say are "she died (so and so minuites/hours) after birth" or, and I'm surprised she hasn't said this "I've birthed a dead baby"
She was deceased prior to birth. If you look closely at some photos Joan has shared, there is evidence to back that up, as well as support the time line that she passed a couple days before birth.
I don’t want to cause pain to anyone that has been through this by showing exact photo points or description, as there really isn’t a way to explain it other than what it is.
Spoink_12 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:11 am
Wasn't she still born?
This comment makes it sound like the was born alive and then passed away after.
I think what she might have been trying to say was that she passed away within 48 hours before Joan actually giving birth to her. So Maeve had died nearly 48 hours before she was delivered. That's what I think it means. Just worded poorly.
Spoink_12 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:11 am
Wasn't she still born?
This comment makes it sound like the was born alive and then passed away after.
I think what she might have been trying to say was that she passed away within 48 hours before Joan actually giving birth to her. So Maeve had died nearly 48 hours before she was delivered. That's what I think it means. Just worded poorly.
I think you're right. She just put it really badly.
Spoink_12 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:11 am
Wasn't she still born?
This comment makes it sound like the was born alive and then passed away after.
I think what she might have been trying to say was that she passed away within 48 hours before Joan actually giving birth to her. So Maeve had died nearly 48 hours before she was delivered. That's what I think it means. Just worded poorly.
I think you're right. She just put it really badly.
If she’s selling to make a donation, why must she throw in the “and also keep me home another year”. I hate that she tries to guilt people into giving her money. We know she made a ton off those mustard seed necklaces. & these little heart ones look like they’d turn your skin green pretty quick. This is so off putting to me.
Just popped on IG to see. Here’s an excerpt from her post (tapatalk has been giving me problems with photos)
“I know everyone is anxious to hear our embryo report. Thank you for your love and patience. We are still taking some time to process the news ourselves and will share later this week when we are ready”
She just has said they are waiting to share the news later on this week so they can have time to process it themselves.
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That doesn't sound like good news. If it was good, why would you need to "process" it? I don't wish her ill at all. I personally think she and John need a LOT of counseling before bringing another child into their home, but I don't _want_ this to fail.
That's one thing I don't think she gets about us "haters". I don't think anyone actually wishes anything bad on her. Just because we think she needs help getting through her understandable grief over Maeve, and that Vera is overshadowed by her dead sister, doesn't mean we want bad things to happen to her.
She just has said they are waiting to share the news later on this week so they can have time to process it themselves.
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That doesn't sound like good news. If it was good, why would you need to "process" it? I don't wish her ill at all. I personally think she and John need a LOT of counseling before bringing another child into their home, but I don't _want_ this to fail.
That's one thing I don't think she gets about us "haters". I don't think anyone actually wishes anything bad on her. Just because we think she needs help getting through her understandable grief over Maeve, and that Vera is overshadowed by her dead sister, doesn't mean we want bad things to happen to her.
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I’ll admit it. I don’t want bad things to happen to her, but I also don’t want to see her have another baby. I don’t think that would be good for any of them in the long run. Vera is the child that is here and she deserves the best. I think John and Joan will fall apart if they have another baby. Vera needs a happy home more than she needs a sibling.
And Joan doesn’t want another CHILD, she just wants another PREGNANCY so she can relive her time with Maeve.
