8 Passengers: Spreading a Disease while Doing As I Please | Part #16

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justmeelinex wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 4:36 am I contacted the Acne sponsorship. Ruby made Chad do that sponsorship yet she lets him sleep on the floor for months. She’s using her children as a cash cow. I hope all her sponsorships reconsider sponsoring Ruby.
Whoa! I think she's taken the acne video down!! Or maybe I'm just blind and missed it.
If she has taken it down, then well done to you and all the others who contacted the skincare company to complain!! :D
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jellybean616 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:58 pm
justmeelinex wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 4:36 am I contacted the Acne sponsorship. Ruby made Chad do that sponsorship yet she lets him sleep on the floor for months. She’s using her children as a cash cow. I hope all her sponsorships reconsider sponsoring Ruby.
Whoa! I think she's taken the acne video down!! Or maybe I'm just blind and missed it.
If she has taken it down, then well done to you and all the others who contacted the skincare company to complain!! :D
I can't find the acne post on Instagram either. I have messaged messenger kids as they have a sponsorship that they have posted about on Facebook. Hopefully they will listen as well.
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jellybean616 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:58 pm
justmeelinex wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 4:36 am I contacted the Acne sponsorship. Ruby made Chad do that sponsorship yet she lets him sleep on the floor for months. She’s using her children as a cash cow. I hope all her sponsorships reconsider sponsoring Ruby.
Whoa! I think she's taken the acne video down!! Or maybe I'm just blind and missed it.
If she has taken it down, then well done to you and all the others who contacted the skincare company to complain!! :D
Yep, she did! I happened to take a screenshot earlier today, just in case she started deleting any of the more recent videos. The one on the second row about Chad's acne routine is gone now.
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athyker wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:20 pm I wonder if April & Daveys video is about Ruby. I'm sure it is. "Stop the Hate"
I think that is exactly what it's about... Those 2 couples are 2 peas in a pod. They are all lousy parents.
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athyker wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:20 pm I wonder if April & Daveys video is about Ruby. I'm sure it is. "Stop the Hate"

That's the first thing that came to mind when I watched it. Glad I'm not the only one who thought so.
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Ruby, sit down, be humble and talk. You are feeling a lot of embarrassment and shame. And you absolutely SHOULD! Just like you made Russell feel. You hiding from your platform is very obvious to everyone that you [should be] are feeling shame. It will be a miserable summer if YouTube demonetises you. And you’ll absolutely deserve it. You are upset because you chose to abuse your kids. You are responsible for your children, And you’re not being a responsible enough parent to them. And who is responsible for you abusing the kids? You. You chose to do that. No one forced you to abuse them. You are not a “Mom victim“. You bloody chose to be. And there are consequences for your actions. It’s up to you. Totally up to you. Accept that there is an outcome for you behaving irresponsibly with your children. Instead you are being selfish. And what we’d all like to see is you being humble and own it. I can see where I’ve broken trust.



-same convo just twisted she had with russel over playing on the iPad for too long.
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freshbalsam wrote:Unfortunately these kids know no different. They have no friends, they have no other life experiences to realize what goes on in their home is NOT normal.

Like someone said, abuse is abuse. I’m sure the Franke’s can’t comprehend that abuse is more than going hungry or having bruises all over. Emotional abuse runs deep.

Shari should not be the one addressing the issue and I’m confident it’s Ruby’s idea that she does to “prove a point” when it comes out of the mouth of her kid instead of her.


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I think that's a huge part of the whole "we don't need friends we have our siblings" mantra that Ellie, Ruby and Bonnie spew on a regular basis. They don't allow their kids to have friends really-- they have their siblings and cousins. They're allowed to have "crushes" because those get views, but the only "friends" they seem to have are other vlogger kids. And that normalizes the exploitation and emotional abuse.
I wonder just how much money Ruby has made off Chad. His Anasazi return videos got tons of views, his "relationship" with Kesley and any video with him in the thumbnail get lots of views. It makes her treatment of him even more despicable. He probably paid for that BVI vacation and probably their couple trip to the UK all by himself. Hell, she even loaned him out to Bonnie, who barely gives him the time of day generally from what I have seen. But he can't have a bed, or privacy or a freaking backpack to carry his books. If he had knuckled under and gone to private school, I wonder if Ruby would have treated him differently.

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I wish YouTube had more regulations and penalties in place for some of these Youtube families or any channel that has kids on it. 1. If a minor clearly states that they don’t want to be filmed and they are ignored and continue to be film,there should be a huge fine. 2. If a minor is in a commercial/ad and you have financial gain there should be a percentage put away in a trust for that minor until they are adults with parents not being able to use those funds at all. 3. If a minor appears in a YouTube video again a percentage should be put away for them to use when they are adults and parents can’t touch it. These are just some examples of regulations I think should exist. I feel so bad when Julie doesn’t want to talk about the shaving situation and ruby just disregards her feelings and keeps filming and talking about it. She has no respect for her kids who time and time again say they don’t want to be film wtf YouTube set up some stuff to protect kids.


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lmmomSD wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:30 pm
freshbalsam wrote:Unfortunately these kids know no different. They have no friends, they have no other life experiences to realize what goes on in their home is NOT normal.

Like someone said, abuse is abuse. I’m sure the Franke’s can’t comprehend that abuse is more than going hungry or having bruises all over. Emotional abuse runs deep.

Shari should not be the one addressing the issue and I’m confident it’s Ruby’s idea that she does to “prove a point” when it comes out of the mouth of her kid instead of her.


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I think that's a huge part of the whole "we don't need friends we have our siblings" mantra that Ellie, Ruby and Bonnie spew on a regular basis. They don't allow their kids to have friends really-- they have their siblings and cousins. They're allowed to have "crushes" because those get views, but the only "friends" they seem to have are other vlogger kids. And that normalizes the exploitation and emotional abuse.
I wonder just how much money Ruby has made off Chad. His Anasazi return videos got tons of views, his "relationship" with Kesley and any video with him in the thumbnail get lots of views. It makes her treatment of him even more despicable. He probably paid for that BVI vacation and probably their couple trip to the UK all by himself. Hell, she even loaned him out to Bonnie, who barely gives him the time of day generally from what I have seen. But he can't have a bed, or privacy or a freaking backpack to carry his books. If he had knuckled under and gone to private school, I wonder if Ruby would have treated him differently.

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The fact that she bought him a new wardrobe of uniforms while he was away shows what school she expected him to pick, I definitely think it would have been easier for him. He went against what she wanted and has been punished for that as well.

I said before they think family is all they need, I wonder which family member Chad is supposed to bond with, no cousins his age. Shari is happy to play the babysitter so it doesn't affect her.

Ruby and Kevin have had a special life at his expense especially.
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Carolina wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:16 pm I wish YouTube had more regulations and penalties in place for some of these Youtube families or any channel that has kids on it. 1. If a minor clearly states that they don’t want to be filmed and they are ignored and continue to be film,there should be a huge fine. 2. If a minor is in a commercial/ad and you have financial gain there should be a percentage put away in a trust for that minor until they are adults with parents not being able to use those funds at all. 3. If a minor appears in a YouTube video again a percentage should be put away for them to use when they are adults and parents can’t touch it. These are just some examples of regulations I think should exist. I feel so bad when Julie doesn’t want to talk about the shaving situation and ruby just disregards her feelings and keeps filming and talking about it. She has no respect for her kids who time and time again say they don’t want to be film wtf YouTube set up some stuff to protect kids.


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I agree. Bonnie does it too. They both know how to manipulate well to get their way. Now we have Ruby coaching the kids telling them what to feel, and you can always see it on their face they don't want to be on camera, but she uses the excuse like she did with Russell, "you feel shame so you don't want to talk to me," no nit wit, it's because he doesn't want it taped.

They are like child actors and should have the same protection with finances.

Someone has to stand up for these kids because in their parents minds, they have no rights and that's wrong.
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Ruby must be punching herself for not taking the part about Chad's sleep situation out.
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Happy+Charlie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:32 pm Ruby must be punching herself for not taking the part about Chad's sleep situation out.
And she thought people would be ok with sharing that information.
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YouTube is absolutely complicit in the situation. They have rules in place, and they enforced those rules when they demonetized Bonnie and April and Davey, and the other channels that they went after _briefly_. And the only reason they did anything was because people complained to the advertisers about children being exploited. The ONLY reason YT did anything was because advertisers pulled their ads. So they got all self-righteous and created all these "guidelines" about how vloggers weren't to show children hurt, sick, upset, or in embarrassing or vulnerable circumstances. They don't enforce those rules, unless a bunch of people report videos, but they don't even have a category to report those kinds of videos. You have to report it as child abuse-- which it isn't always. But there's no category for "this video is outrageously flaunting your rules about not exploiting children". And COPPA doesn't seem to have done squat.
The only way to effect changes on YT is to hurt the company in its wallet. I know we're not supposed to talk about going IRL here, but complaining long and loud to the advertisers.

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Happy+Charlie wrote:Ruby must be punching herself for not taking the part about Chad's sleep situation out.
Oh, no. She's not kicking _herself_. If anyone she is angry with Chad for being so bad that she had to take away his bed.
It's what she gets for being too lazy to edit her own videos.

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There is so much on this topic, read through a bunch of pages, so forgive me if I’m repeating. Kevin said on Instagram the other day they have used therapists for years and these are tried and true practices.

I can’t help but think of the Duggar’s. Remember when it came out a Josh had molested his sisters, the church counselors or whoever they were had them shave Josh’s head! Crazy punishment, but some times these religious therapists are extreme!
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GGF1987 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:31 pm
athyker wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:20 pm I wonder if April & Daveys video is about Ruby. I'm sure it is. "Stop the Hate"
I think that is exactly what it's about... Those 2 couples are 2 peas in a pod. They are all lousy parents.
100%. They were together like 2 days ago. April and Davey are exactly the same.
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imoverit wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:03 am Ugh, it is going to be even worse watching Shari try to address this than Ruby and Kevin. It is very frustrating to me that a lot of the accounts calling out the family are noticeably immature and not very well thought out (often complaining the kids don't have phones, which is a minor issue compared to others) and those are going to be the only ones this family will pretend are giving them negativity, not mature adults with well reasoned thoughts. I'm proud of the young teens who are calling out the abuse in this family but all I am saying is it will be a lot easier for Ruby and the family to feel the accusations are unjustified when it is most loudly coming from young people who they look down on.

Yes Shari, there is worse abuse happening in the world. But abuse is abuse, and what Ruby does to her kids is absolutely neglectful and emotionally abusive. Also, Shari doesn't experience it nearly as badly as her siblings so she is the last person I want to hear from about this. Just because some people have it worse does not mean it is okay for Ruby to do these things to her kids and, even more shockingly and harmful, broadcast it to the entire internet and DEFEND it. Of course the Griffiths family members don't see any problem with it and are defending them -- similar things are going on in their own families! But I have always considered Ruby the worst of them all.

This entire situation will not result in a single second of self reflection or thought from the Franke parents. Nothing will change, this will blow over and they will have their audience back to fuel and encourage the rampant exploitation of these children for their mother's profit and hers alone. I hope the kids at least know this is all going on and maybe within themselves feel empowered to stand up to their parents or say no to being filmed when they don't want to be. No child wants strangers attacking their family for abuse and will naturally want to defend their family and say it's not so bad. But I think that's a symptom of it all - they don't realize it's happening to them because on the surface they are a well-off picture-perfect family, and those things aren't 'supposed' to happen to families like theirs.
100% agree, I saw posts on Instagram accounts saying Ruby was a pedophile because she was kissing and biting Russell and that video with the girls where they were waving their feet around (its an old video). In addition, they were calling them racists 🤦🏽‍♀️ citing the post about George Floyd as evidence. Listen I wouldn't be surprised if they were racists, but you're doing this "movement" no good by throwing baseless claims that you can't prove. I'm not a fan of 8 Passengers, however those claims true or not can be just as damaging to ones reputation as Ruby's parenting is to those kids. They can ruin someone's life, and just like Ruby said that she was going to take screenshots to use for content, she can turn around and use said screenshots to sue these people for defamation of character and slander, (and if she was really greedy for "money lost" since everyone went after her sponsors). Like you said, they're not helping the situation, they're complaining about technology mostly, but not the other things Ruby has done, and Ruby is just going to look at them and group them with everyone who has legitimate concerns and not actually reflect and try to change.
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IHateCilantro wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:13 pm
In one of the vlogs ruby and Kevin said they are not paying any money for the kids college funds and supposedly they live on a budget right now so anything the kids want they will have buy them selfs
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lmmomSD wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:33 pm
Happy+Charlie wrote:Ruby must be punching herself for not taking the part about Chad's sleep situation out.
Oh, no. She's not kicking _herself_. If anyone she is angry with Chad for being so bad that she had to take away his bed.
It's what she gets for being too lazy to edit her own videos.

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I’ve been wondering if she didn’t even bother to review this video closely enough to see how it makes her look, and now she’s fired the editor.

I have a feeling we’re going to be getting some kind of tearful pathetic video from her on Instagram or YouTube appealing to the pity of her loyal sheep over all of this. I hope all the kid viewers who idolized her as the perfect mother don’t go forward thinking this stuff is okay for a parent to do. I think they’ll go back to normal posting very soon to “stick it” to the “haters” on the arrogant insistence that we can’t change their life and Ruby is in control of whatever she wants to do.

Which is why they seriously need legitimate external intervention!
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