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Audrey3196 wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:30 am I had a COVID test done a few months ago and it is not that bad. Ruby was incredibly over dramatic (no surprise). Mine was negative but it definitely scared me about the reality we live in. How can this family still not be social distancing and wearing masks? It’s so unbelievably irresponsible and truly highlights how uneducated and uninformed they really are.
I think she knows about that stuff but thinks the rules don't apply to her and her family as she thinks that it won't effect her if she doesn't wear a mask or social distance. They think they are above everything but they are not and it won't effect them until it happens to someone they know.
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ujvs_ wrote:i’m disgusted with the portion size of that breakfast Ruby prepared for her kids - far too small!
Even for Ruby those portion sizes were crazy! Chad could have eaten that entire thing himself. It’s nuts that she is giving an active teenage boy such tiny portions.
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Why is she acting like she 'didn't see it coming'? Lol, what does she expect when she's running around, going on luxury vacations, having huge family gatherings, and going everywhere without a mask or social distancing? Of course, the only reason she actually made her kids stay home was because she's scared of getting blamed. She's like, "I just don't want it to be traced back to us, like Ruby's kids are going everywhere and now everyone has Covid." It's not, "We should really stay home to protect people and make sure no one is harmed by us not social distancing". It's just, oh, they'll blame us for getting everyone sick so I guess we have to stay home. Of course, in the same vlog that she shows herself getting tested for Covid, they have Russell, Abby, and Julie going to the orthodontist and not wearing masks.

Also, what is with them and letting their youngest children just run off and disappear? Awhile ago Ruby acted like Eve went off on her bike and disappeared for an entire day and resurfaced all dirty sometime in the evening. Now, Russell just disappears and Kevin is driving around looking for him, saying he has no clue where Russell went. Like, geez, you're so worried about your teenage son watching tv by himself, but your six-year old and nine year old think its ok to leave the house without telling anyone and disappear for a day and neither Ruby or Kevin seem to care.
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Someone asked how far would the church go to protect their problematic members who might be a reflection of the church? Very far. Look up the Michael Jensen case in West Virginia. The church was alerted by a few ward moms that Jensen was sexually abusing their children while babysitting and they continuously covered for him and tried to silence the mothers. I’m not the best at embedding videos on this site but here’s one from vice news on the story. ABC News also did a big story on it that’s on YouTube and NewNameNoah has camera footage of a group of mothers trying to bring it up during a church service and the bishops physically trying to silence them as the congregation sings hymns to drown them out. Creepy stuff and the church hides it all in plain sight. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were funding the super expensive Oprah lawyers Ruby has hired. https://youtu.be/P3OqvQw_-ko


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rulatows000 wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:12 am Why is she acting like she 'didn't see it coming'? Lol, what does she expect when she's running around, going on luxury vacations, having huge family gatherings, and going everywhere without a mask or social distancing? Of course, the only reason she actually made her kids stay home was because she's scared of getting blamed. She's like, "I just don't want it to be traced back to us, like Ruby's kids are going everywhere and now everyone has Covid." It's not, "We should really stay home to protect people and make sure no one is harmed by us not social distancing". It's just, oh, they'll blame us for getting everyone sick so I guess we have to stay home. Of course, in the same vlog that she shows herself getting tested for Covid, they have Russell, Abby, and Julie going to the orthodontist and not wearing masks.

Also, what is with them and letting their youngest children just run off and disappear? Awhile ago Ruby acted like Eve went off on her bike and disappeared for an entire day and resurfaced all dirty sometime in the evening. Now, Russell just disappears and Kevin is driving around looking for him, saying he has no clue where Russell went. Like, geez, you're so worried about your teenage son watching tv by himself, but your six-year old and nine year old think its ok to leave the house without telling anyone and disappear for a day and neither Ruby or Kevin seem to care.
This is exactly what I thought. At first I thought, what, is Ruby doing something reasonable and having her kids stay home in case she has the virus?! Then I realized it seems more like she didn't want them out doing all the fun things they had planned and almost wanted an excuse to keep them from doing it all. She didn't even look like she had covid symptoms, she was sniffling (and the description says the test was negative).

And yes, it is shocking to me that they would admit they had no idea where Russell was! I think it's great to live in a neighborhood where your kids can go out and be with friends all day, but like, the parents should still know exactly who you're going to hang out with. And Kevin seemed ready to blame Russell if he missed his appointment. The kid is what, 9? It's not his responsibility at all to keep track of his orthodontist appointments - it's Kevin's responsibility to know where his son is.
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imoverit wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:22 am
rulatows000 wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:12 am Why is she acting like she 'didn't see it coming'? Lol, what does she expect when she's running around, going on luxury vacations, having huge family gatherings, and going everywhere without a mask or social distancing? Of course, the only reason she actually made her kids stay home was because she's scared of getting blamed. She's like, "I just don't want it to be traced back to us, like Ruby's kids are going everywhere and now everyone has Covid." It's not, "We should really stay home to protect people and make sure no one is harmed by us not social distancing". It's just, oh, they'll blame us for getting everyone sick so I guess we have to stay home. Of course, in the same vlog that she shows herself getting tested for Covid, they have Russell, Abby, and Julie going to the orthodontist and not wearing masks.

Also, what is with them and letting their youngest children just run off and disappear? Awhile ago Ruby acted like Eve went off on her bike and disappeared for an entire day and resurfaced all dirty sometime in the evening. Now, Russell just disappears and Kevin is driving around looking for him, saying he has no clue where Russell went. Like, geez, you're so worried about your teenage son watching tv by himself, but your six-year old and nine year old think its ok to leave the house without telling anyone and disappear for a day and neither Ruby or Kevin seem to care.
This is exactly what I thought. At first I thought, what, is Ruby doing something reasonable and having her kids stay home in case she has the virus?! Then I realized it seems more like she didn't want them out doing all the fun things they had planned and almost wanted an excuse to keep them from doing it all. She didn't even look like she had covid symptoms, she was sniffling (and the description says the test was negative).

And yes, it is shocking to me that they would admit they had no idea where Russell was! I think it's great to live in a neighborhood where your kids can go out and be with friends all day, but like, the parents should still know exactly who you're going to hang out with. And Kevin seemed ready to blame Russell if he missed his appointment. The kid is what, 9? It's not his responsibility at all to keep track of his orthodontist appointments - it's Kevin's responsibility to know where his son is.
I watched it twice because I thought I missed something. Nope, no complaints of being sick. She just got a test to make her kids stay home for the last 2 weeks of summer and have some vlog content. She wouldn't shut up about how she was never happier at the beginning of the stay at home orders.

There was a discussion on Bonnie's thread after Joel yelled at the kids for not being happy for Boston's "successes". His "success" that day? Getting away with breaking the rules at Grandma's to watch the forbidden/coveted Simpsons movie. Ruby's antics just confirms for me that none of these idiots are capable of understanding that in normal society, rules are for protecting people, and not to manipulate/control and ruin fun. The only reason they won't speed is to avoid fines, not to prevent their kids from getting launched through the windshield at 100 miles per hour or kill other innocent motorists. Ruby only had her kids stay home to 1. manipulate them, and 2. To avoid getting accused of risking other people's lives. She doesn't actually care about anybody else's life.
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I think what Ruby and the entire Griffiths family needs is a walk through the halls of a pediatric oncology unit. Maybe that will give Ruby a reality check to stop being so selfish and entitled and maybe appreciate her kids more.


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Audrey240 wrote:I think what Ruby and the entire Griffiths family needs is a walk through the halls of a pediatric oncology unit. Maybe that will give Ruby a reality check to stop being so selfish and entitled and maybe appreciate her kids more.


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I don't think it would do a damn bit of good. They (among others in their vlogger community) have this "God will protect us" entitled thought process. Jordan Page going on about the "miracle" that their cabin didn't burn down, others like the Gardners talking about "angels watching over" them, and Ellie has even said that their YT success is proof that God approves of what they are doing. When they saw the car accident on the way to school that one time, Ruby seriously said she was glad they prayed that morning (if you believe they actually pray before hitting the road). It makes me insanely angry because better people than they are face tragedy every day, and they have never that I have seen, ever put another person over themselves.
Yet people look up to them and defend them blindly.
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I wonder what the other parents in the neighborhood think of all this.
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It's kind of stupid that the kids have to put their lives on hold because one member of their family got tested. Where we live, if one of your family members gets tested for COVID-19, then that person who got tested must self-isolate AWAY from their family but can do so within their own home. My mom's a nurse and unfortunately came into contact with a asymptomatic COVID-19 patient. When she was told to self-isolate, we got the master bedroom all set up for her and had my dad move all his own stuff to the living room. My mom self isolated away from us for 2 weeks while we brought all her meals for her outside her bedroom door. But our lives weren't put on hold just because she got tested. Why do the kids have to suffer because of Ruby? She should self isolate away from her kids, she has enough resources to do so.
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CognitiveDissonance wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:57 pm Ok I have a Question. I thought Mormons did not drink coffee or tea bc of the Caffeine. But ALL the Griffith offspring and their kids drink POP! All the time! And not Caffeine Free pop either! Also...I'm from Kansas. We say pop. I know others use Soda or Coke. But you know what I mean. Anyway. It has always struck me that they are supposed to be so pious in avoiding Caffeine. When Ruby and Kevin were in the BVI recently the other Mormons bloggers drank pop too. It can carry as much or even a stronger punch then coffee. I drink pop myself so I am not a pop shamer. Lol. Just curious!
Alcohol, coffee and tea aren't allowed, but soft drinks, energy drinks and the like are okay. Church leaders released a statement in 2012 about this.
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Josette wrote:
CognitiveDissonance wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:57 pm Ok I have a Question. I thought Mormons did not drink coffee or tea bc of the Caffeine. But ALL the Griffith offspring and their kids drink POP! All the time! And not Caffeine Free pop either! Also...I'm from Kansas. We say pop. I know others use Soda or Coke. But you know what I mean. Anyway. It has always struck me that they are supposed to be so pious in avoiding Caffeine. When Ruby and Kevin were in the BVI recently the other Mormons bloggers drank pop too. It can carry as much or even a stronger punch then coffee. I drink pop myself so I am not a pop shamer. Lol. Just curious!
Alcohol, coffee and tea aren't allowed, but soft drinks, energy drinks and the like are okay. Church leaders released a statement in 2012 about this.
It just doesn't make sense. I don't mean to be slamming Mormons. But coffee and tea actually have health benefits in moderation, especially green tea. And sodas and energy drinks have zero. They're horrible for you.
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emma2948 wrote:It's kind of stupid that the kids have to put their lives on hold because one member of their family got tested. Where we live, if one of your family members gets tested for COVID-19, then that person who got tested must self-isolate AWAY from their family but can do so within their own home. My mom's a nurse and unfortunately came into contact with a asymptomatic COVID-19 patient. When she was told to self-isolate, we got the master bedroom all set up for her and had my dad move all his own stuff to the living room. My mom self isolated away from us for 2 weeks while we brought all her meals for her outside her bedroom door. But our lives weren't put on hold just because she got tested. Why do the kids have to suffer because of Ruby? She should self isolate away from her kids, she has enough resources to do so.
It's not stupid.
For example, if your mother had had the virus and she had passed it on to you and you were asymptomatic, you would have infected other people without knowing it.

In my country they would put the whole family in isolation, now that the situation is under control, if a family member has symptoms the whole family must take the test and stay in quarantine while waiting for the result (3 days)


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emma2948 wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:51 pm It's kind of stupid that the kids have to put their lives on hold because one member of their family got tested. Where we live, if one of your family members gets tested for COVID-19, then that person who got tested must self-isolate AWAY from their family but can do so within their own home. My mom's a nurse and unfortunately came into contact with a asymptomatic COVID-19 patient. When she was told to self-isolate, we got the master bedroom all set up for her and had my dad move all his own stuff to the living room. My mom self isolated away from us for 2 weeks while we brought all her meals for her outside her bedroom door. But our lives weren't put on hold just because she got tested. Why do the kids have to suffer because of Ruby? She should self isolate away from her kids, she has enough resources to do so.
Exactly! They have a large house so there is more than sufficient room for her to self isolate.

Going back briefly to when they were waiting in the car for Ruby's turn to be tested and she coughed on her hand instead of the crook of her elbow as you're supposed to, but I guess that shouldn't surprise me considering the lack of proper hygiene in their family.

As with the others, I was appalled at the tiny portions she's serving growing children. What she served Chad might be enough for a toddler, but not a 15-year old boy.
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Ruby's reaction could totally be mine. I'm afraid of the Covid test (not that I really need to take it) because I have bad sinuses and anything in my nose hurts, even water. Granted I didn't watch the video with volume on (I have a habit of that..), so I'm not sure what she was saying. I think with having anything shoved up a nose like that, her reaction was justified, because I'd probably do the same thing or worse. :?

The food portions were tiny though!
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Emily81 wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:39 pm
emma2948 wrote:It's kind of stupid that the kids have to put their lives on hold because one member of their family got tested. Where we live, if one of your family members gets tested for COVID-19, then that person who got tested must self-isolate AWAY from their family but can do so within their own home. My mom's a nurse and unfortunately came into contact with a asymptomatic COVID-19 patient. When she was told to self-isolate, we got the master bedroom all set up for her and had my dad move all his own stuff to the living room. My mom self isolated away from us for 2 weeks while we brought all her meals for her outside her bedroom door. But our lives weren't put on hold just because she got tested. Why do the kids have to suffer because of Ruby? She should self isolate away from her kids, she has enough resources to do so.
It's not stupid.
For example, if your mother had had the virus and she had passed it on to you and you were asymptomatic, you would have infected other people without knowing it.

In my country they would put the whole family in isolation, now that the situation is under control, if a family member has symptoms the whole family must take the test and stay in quarantine while waiting for the result (3 days)


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I should've probably cleared things up. When she was sent home (the same day she came into contact with the patient) we all were in our rooms to give her time to move herself into the master bedroom. Once she did, we never made contact with her, so there was no reason for us kids and my dad to isolate with her if we never came into contact with her in the first place. With Ruby, they do tell you in advance that your going to have to take the test, knowing this, she should've self isolated from her kids starting then, and her kids then wouldn't have to isolate with her. She talks about her and her family being responsible for not spreading the virus, but did nothing about it beforehand, she barely wore a mask, barely social distanced herself when going out, and only now is she taking "responsibility" to not spread the virus. She's never followed the rules before, why start now?
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Is something going on with invidous? None of the Frankes videos are coming up did they sue? I really don't want to watch on youtube...
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Yrulikethis wrote:Is something going on with invidous? None of the Frankes videos are coming up did they sue? I really don't want to watch on youtube...
You can copy and past the link here: https://watchkin.com/

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Has anybody seen ruby's Instagram story where she is talking in ikea with her mask pulled down. If my mom saw her she would tell her to put her mask up. Ruby basically wants to other sick because she had to talk in her story with her mask lowered. Why can't she talk with her mask up. I bet she is promoting the home and haven home schooling stuff because she is getting paid to and she's too lazy to find content to teach her kids for homeschool. If it were up to her they would be learning nothing but Mormon stuff. I think she was trying to recommend what the kids do for school this year pretending like the kids have a choice but they don't. The kids just agreed with ruby as they were afraid they might be punished for not going along with rubys plan and they don't want to be sent to prison camp like chad was because of the decision they made for homeschooling.
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So, we're starting to get little glimpses of what Ruby's homeschooling will look like. She bought her kids little stuffed wolves to cuddle with while she reads them Call of the Wild by Jack London and they drink hot chocolate. Now, I'm not criticizing the idea, it does sound cute and it will be fun for the little kids but... why is it a 'homeschooling' idea? Can't you just read a good story to your kids regardless if it's summer or the school year? Maybe if the kids were all reading the book by themselves, it would a little better. But reading to your kid as part of homeschooling while they play with stuffed animals and drink hot chocolate? I don't know, that just doesn't really seem like a valuable educational experience to me. She seems really, really concerned with her homeschooling being 'cute' and Instagram and Youtube worthy. She obviously isn't going to want to film her kids sitting quietly at a table doing math equations all day. I can totally see her regularly interrupting them to pose them all around her with stuffed animals and hot chocolate or being perfectly posed in their little homeschooling room. She'll probably buy them worksheets and real school books to use just as film props, but not to actually learn with.
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