E+J - Schrödinger's Baby | Part 26

[Scar2016]

Has B&M or C&K said ANYTHING regarding the miscarriage? I haven't watched C&K's blog yet today so idk if they have. I know the bumps didn't say anything.

That's probably the strangest part. If it was real I feel like her friends would be rallying behind her with tweets like "I'm so sorry" or "we're keeping Ellie and Jared in our prayers" or ANYTHING. But it seems like there's been NOTHING.

As well as nothing from her family.

Nope, C&K didn't say anything either.

It's like radio silence from everyone, it's almost like it didn't happen for anyone except for Ellie.

Well, that's the very nature of delusional thinking and behavior after all...

[ewokfan11]

This lantern "company" is in HUGE legal trouble all over. Including where I live in Florida. The owner is SHADY AF!!!! Why would they even get involved with someone who is so AWFUL and a LIAR! Hmmmmm. Jared needs to do his research.....

[ewokfan11]

The same people who put on the lantern event in tomorrow's vlog also STOLE money from people from events they were going to put on, but BAILED! Slide in the City!!! LOOK IT UP!!!!!!

Seriously???!! Ellie and Jared are PURE EVIL and just looking for money. I'm SOOOOOOO over these people.

[Scar2016]

The same people who put on the lantern event in tomorrow's vlog also STOLE money from people from events they were going to put on, but BAILED! Slide in the City!!! LOOK IT UP!!!!!!

Seriously???!! Ellie and Jared are PURE EVIL and just looking for money. I'm SOOOOOOO over these people.

Oh dear. Right on the back of the miscarriage bullshit. This doth not the Mormon wholesome image make. All they need is one more scandal to hit the Holy Trinity.

[Cgl33]

The same people who put on the lantern event in tomorrow's vlog also STOLE money from people from events they were going to put on, but BAILED! Slide in the City!!! LOOK IT UP!!!!!!

Seriously???!! Ellie and Jared are PURE EVIL and just looking for money. I'm SOOOOOOO over these people.

We only know that they attended, not that they worked with them. I'll criticize them on a lot of things, but just attending lantern fest?

[phie20]

Come on, you're seriously assuming E+J know about something that goes on outside their Utah-baby-making-bubble?
Ellie couldn't care less about anything that doesn't have to do with babies, cause her mind just ends there.
They're at a lantern fest, end.

[8elz]

So I've seen a few people suggest that maybe E + J had a fight because J was angry about the hole (lack of better word) that E has made them dig. I was thinking about it though, if that were the case, why would J continue to milk it with the tags he is putting on the videos? Someone posted them on the last thread I believe and they were pregnancy loss related.. Surely you wouldn't fight with your wife over something like this and then still use those tags?

I mean anything is possible if all he cares about is the Cha-Ching but that seems way too hypocritical even for him



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[HelloSweetie]

I can see why E&J might want to go to a lantern release if they are truly going through a miscarriage, but driving all the way to SLC is such a stark change from Ellie being so unwell and not even appearing in the vlogs. The website mentioned that there are RV spots there, so I wonder if they will have their camper yet?

I don't know about the scam, but I do judge them supporting an even that is so detrimental to the environment. Wildlife and livestock are often killed by the wire from the lanterns. What goes up, must come down! I don't excuse their being a part of something like this and not doing their research about it just because they are grieving and the idea is nice.

[amyfalafal]

So I've seen a few people suggest that maybe E + J had a fight because J was angry about the hole (lack of better word) that E has made them dig. I was thinking about it though, if that were the case, why would J continue to milk it with the tags he is putting on the videos? Someone posted them on the last thread I believe and they were pregnancy loss related.. Surely you wouldn't fight with your wife over something like this and then still use those tags?

I mean anything is possible if all he cares about is the Cha-Ching but that seems way too hypocritical even for him



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Being in bereavement therapy and in some support groups for pregnancy loss, I found a lot of people divorce with the tipping point being both parents are grieving differently and wont accept the difference in grieving. It's a source of a lot of fights. Sadly my husband and I found a lot during our many losses, and it didnt help the natural grieving process at all. This is why we began bereavement therapy (specialising in pregnancy loss) and it helped us a lot. If that's what you mean about couples fighting during a loss..?
However, I think since Jared demonstrated Ellie was symptom hunting throughout last month, he didnt believe any of it. He trusts Ellie knows her body but he wasnt seeing the facts. They possibly fought over this and she maybe (being ELLIE) threatened to leave him if he didnt play along to "save face" (we all know there is no more saving face at this point).
BTW I still dont know where to find these tags people talk about.

[Addicted2vlogs]

Everyone's theories seem to fit so perfectly. I am so deeply invested into this whole shit storm. It might take some time but if E&J don't tell the truth or at least be as transparent as they've been the past 2 months then viewers will expose the truth no doubt.

They can't go from being 100% open, transparent and honest about everything including vaginal fluids from the day they started talking about another baby, then go silent when you get caught in a lie you created day-after-day...

I will feel terrible if they do prove she was pregnant but until then they are fucking frauds and are milking it as much as they can, while creating real pain for people, including people they actually know. Wtf were they thinking telling children.


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[8elz]

So I've seen a few people suggest that maybe E + J had a fight because J was angry about the hole (lack of better word) that E has made them dig. I was thinking about it though, if that were the case, why would J continue to milk it with the tags he is putting on the videos? Someone posted them on the last thread I believe and they were pregnancy loss related.. Surely you wouldn't fight with your wife over something like this and then still use those tags?

I mean anything is possible if all he cares about is the Cha-Ching but that seems way too hypocritical even for him



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Being in bereavement therapy and in some support groups for pregnancy loss, I found a lot of people divorce with the tipping point being both parents are grieving differently and wont accept the difference in grieving. It's a source of a lot of fights. Sadly my husband and I found a lot during our many losses, and it didnt help the natural grieving process at all. This is why we began bereavement therapy (specialising in pregnancy loss) and it helped us a lot. If that's what you mean about couples fighting during a loss..?
However, I think since Jared demonstrated Ellie was symptom hunting throughout last month, he didnt believe any of it. He trusts Ellie knows her body but he wasnt seeing the facts. They possibly fought over this and she maybe (being ELLIE) threatened to leave him if he didnt play along to "save face" (we all know there is no more saving face at this point).
BTW I still dont know where to find these tags people talk about.

I have no idea where to find the tags either but they must be out there to see haha.

The posts that I am referring too, their theories are along the lines of, E was pushing being pregnant onto J but he never believed it, the doctor confirmed she wasn't pregnant and this was actually her period and J may have said something like "I told you so" and they're now fighting about it which is why she is missing from the vlogs and he's acting strange.


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[amyfalafal]

Everyone's theories seem to fit so perfectly. I am so deeply invested into this whole shit storm. It might take some time but if E&J don't tell the truth or at least be as transparent as they've been the past 2 months then viewers will expose the truth no doubt.

They can't go from being 100% open, transparent and honest about everything including vaginal fluids from the day they started talking about another baby, then go silent when you get caught in a lie you created day-after-day...

I will feel terrible if they do prove she was pregnant but until then they are fucking frauds and are milking it as much as they can, while creating real pain for people, including people they actually know. Wtf were they thinking telling children.


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You're spot on with creating drama and real pain for people/family they actually love who are supposed to be supporting them through their hard time but nobody is. I noticed Ellie is on instagram liking stuff again. Do we know if she reads on here?

[Cgl33]

I honestly think Ellie is depressed. I don't like Ellie, but it's very sad and lonely for a child to have a parent that's depressed. I experienced it and i don't wish that on Jackson and Calvin. I want them to have a mom who us mentally well. I'm hoping that her going to the lantern festival means that her depression or whatever it is, is improving. Despite the lanterns being controversial, at least she's out and interacting with her kids. That's of course assuming that they all went.

[onbreak]

I have tubebuddy, it shows tags
I don't think Jared trusts her. He always asking, are you ok?
This whole situation has a stink of high school drama.
I've never heard of the lantern festival.. I can't comment there..
but I watch the vlogs like I'm grading an essay.. I look at every little detail.. and I feel like ellie is in the strangely quiet house, seething behind that wall.
I still can't get over the mother's day lunch at her house. I mean it was a totally bizarre vlog. I understand waiting to pee so the line could be visible, but it wasn't.
Grow up, get a blood test then tell. Jareds lack of enthusiasm and sympathetic vibes speak volumes.. oh we're going to cuddle and watch movies after I CLEANED ALL DAY.. oh the man of every one's dream.. gag me with a spoon.
They should have been secretive with this mother's day eve pregnancy stuff. Especially, if the lines were faint. Made the vlog about how happy (just kidding) she is being a mom.. putting some good out into the universe and went to get a blood test.
And used the footage for the pregnancy reveal/conformation vlog.

In my imagination she's needlepointing a - happiness is a choice- wall tapestry.. those things take time she'll be back when she finishes


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[SunnySide0]

Slight change of topic, I would love to be a fly on the wall during those long chats in Jennifer and Chad's home that Ellie and Jared always claim to love doing. They always say that they sit there for hours talking. I'm intrigued about what they discuss.

[HelloSweetie]

Everyone's theories seem to fit so perfectly. I am so deeply invested into this whole shit storm. It might take some time but if E&J don't tell the truth or at least be as transparent as they've been the past 2 months then viewers will expose the truth no doubt.

They can't go from being 100% open, transparent and honest about everything including vaginal fluids from the day they started talking about another baby, then go silent when you get caught in a lie you created day-after-day...

I will feel terrible if they do prove she was pregnant but until then they are fucking frauds and are milking it as much as they can, while creating real pain for people, including people they actually know. Wtf were they thinking telling children.


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The agree. Plus how can they justify going silent and keeping their own story private, while having exploited the struggles and sad stories of the IVF candidates?

They don't need to carry on about Ellie's ovulation like arrogant overconfident asssholes, but they do need to mention the ups and downs from time to time.

[Cgl33]

I really want to know what they told Jackson and how he's processing their behavior. They went from telling him he's going to have another brother or sister, doing big brother training pictures, and Ellie even taking him to her appointment, to the sad, quiet house and his mom being in bed all day. Why did they have to do that to him?

Side note, do you think Jackson was Ellie's favorite because he was excited about a baby? She chose him to go to her big appointment. Calvin doesn't understand what's going on and doesn't care.

[amyfalafal]

Just watched Ruby's vlog. no mention of Ellie. I wonder what her older kids think of what's happening with Aunt Ellie, and what she tells them considering how many miscarriages she had, this charade is a slap in the face to Ruby, too.

[actuallydear]

saw this on facebook and thought of this topic.

[CallieT]

Honestly, I agree with this, I think I'd be kind of weird if the Bumps or C&K were talking about it.