C&K: The Struggle is Real...ly Hard to Relate (Part 14)

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

The thing that bothers me about it is there were 3 other grandparents at the game. Cullen didnt have to stay back to keep Gaines entertained.
No father I know, and I know a lot of them, would have let their wives go to an urgent care with a child they think "cant breath" all by herself, regardless if she "insisted" he go to the game. It wouldnt have happened. They would have been there, especially considering the other child was completely taken care of. People who regularly spend entire days with Gaines were there with her, she wouldnt have cared if Cullen and Katie were gone.
And like others have mentioned, if he needed to get there quick he couldnt have.

If they were at home and he stayed back to keep Gaines at the house that would be different. But there were more then enough adults to occupy Gaines.

[askeptichere]

I think if the comments bothered Cullen enough he could have addressed them himself too. I watched their Sam and Nia response video long before I watched them. I kept wondering why Cullen wasn't talking more about the situation and just letting Katie. This kind of reminds me of that. Maybe Cullen will address it in today's vlog.

Cullen is not good with words. If he were to address this in any form, he’d for sure make it worse. That’s why it was Katie that made the post yesterday defending him. They won’t address it in the upcoming vlog. They always just let these type of things blow over. But I can almost guarantee Cullen will make indirect offhanded remarks and jabs over the next few weeks.


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[workfromhomemom]

I think if the comments bothered Cullen enough he could have addressed them himself too. I watched their Sam and Nia response video long before I watched them. I kept wondering why Cullen wasn't talking more about the situation and just letting Katie. This kind of reminds me of that. Maybe Cullen will address it in today's vlog.

Cullen is not good with words. If he were to address this in any form, he’d for sure make it worse. That’s why it was Katie that made the post yesterday defending him. They won’t address it in the upcoming vlog. They always just let these type of things blow over. But I can almost guarantee Cullen will make indirect offhanded remarks and jabs over the next few weeks.


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You are probably correct. I've been watching them since a little bit after Gaines first bday and I remember them addressing concerns/comments in the vlogs. I admired them for that. Cullen will probably retreat some more like he was.

[Ducklings4]

I guess if the title of your vlog that your child cannot breathe then people will really believe he could not breathe and maybe the dad should have gone to the emergency with mom and toddler. Brooks was wheezing, but he was breathing. He needed a nebulizer treatment. He was miserable and Cullen would have not been able to be quiet and let Katie do her thing. He would have tried to make Brooks smile and laugh, Brooks would have just cried more. That is not the treatment Brooks needed. Katie did fine with Brooks even while filming him. Maybe just maybe Cullen should rethink click bait and people would not have gotten on his case.


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[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I guess if the title of your vlog that your child cannot breathe then people will really believe he could not breathe and maybe the dad should have gone to the emergency with mom and toddler. Brooks was wheezing, but he was breathing. He needed a nebulizer treatment. He was miserable and Cullen would have not been able to be quiet and let Katie do her thing. He would have tried to make Brooks smile and laugh, Brooks would have just cried more. That is not the treatment Brooks needed. Katie did fine with Brooks even while filming him. Maybe just maybe Cullen should rethink click bait and people would not have gotten on his case.


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YES!!

Although if Cullen cant calm himslef down enough to help his child thats a whole different issue, and just verifies that he is more a child in that home then a helpful co-parent to Katie.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

And how else is Katie supposed to react? She can't very well get on the comments or the vlog and say "yeah ya'll are right, I want Cullen to be a better parent and not be off drinking while I parent!" Of course she is defending him and his actions.

[FitMom]

I agree with Katie on this one, there was zero reason for Cullen and MG and everyone else to be at Urgent Care. Katie was fine with it, so i see no reason to bitch about it. MG had fun with her dad and grandparents and Brooks was fine. Cullen also didn't seem drunk to me, a little buzzed, yes, and wouldn't have been able to drive. But there were plenty of grandparents who were not drinking (i don't think) that would have been able to take Cullen to Katie and Brooks if things went down hill (and who would want to be there with Cullen if things got so bad Katie thought he needed to be there)
Also, no one is forcing anyone to pay for superchat. If people want to spend money on something like that then so be it. It's just like buying merch. No i wouldn't do it, but that's my decision and C&K have no control over other decisions. I would turn it on if i were in their place, if people want to pay to talk to them that's their prerogative and a good business decision on C&K's end. Does it make the livestream annoying? Sure, but i just dont watch them. C&K aren't forcing anyone to pay to watch, just like M&B aren't forcing anyone to buy their ugly backpacks. It's 100% the same principal.

I was wondering where you were to agree with them. But, I do agree about the superchat. If someone is willing to pay...let them.

[RootBeerFloatie]

It just says a lot to me that Katie doesn't want Cullen to go urgent care while their son "can't breathe" because he'd only cause more stress. That's not the sort of thing that a normal person wants to experience alone, but I guess if you have a husband like Cullen he's better off far away from any situation in which he's expected to act like a responsible grown man

[teahathspilleth123]

For anyone still wondering about superchat the answer is YES the youtuber can turn off that feature.

It can be done by one click to disable it.

If Katie and Cullen really wanted to just answer instagram questions and not take any more money from people it takes about a second to disable the superchat option.

[Playsinrain]

And how else is Katie supposed to react? She can't very well get on the comments or the vlog and say "yeah ya'll are right, I want Cullen to be a better parent and not be off drinking while I parent!" Of course she is defending him and his actions.

I feel like if she agreed with them she would have just ignored it. They ignore hate 99.9% of the time. If she felt strongly enough to come in and make the comment she did then she obviously means what she said. I don't see her agreeing with comments if she thought he needed to hear what was being said, she would have just ignored them like they normally do.

[HelloSweetie]

Some of the people defending Cullen not going to urgent care have a fit because Bryan doesn't go to regular doctors appointments.

Cullen used to be a good dad, but that isn't his focus anymore. He had mid-life crisis written all over him now!

I get the impression that Katie is letting a lot of things slide to try and keep him happy. If he's a man-child incapable of supporting his wife while they are in urgent care, then that's a problem! I can't imagine how people are somehow dismissing that like it's ok. He was there for the birth of two of his children, and his father's entire treatment and subsequent decline. Cullen knows (or at least knew) how to behave in a clinical setting, he just didn't want to this time.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

And how else is Katie supposed to react? She can't very well get on the comments or the vlog and say "yeah ya'll are right, I want Cullen to be a better parent and not be off drinking while I parent!" Of course she is defending him and his actions.

I feel like if she agreed with them she would have just ignored it. They ignore hate 99.9% of the time. If she felt strongly enough to come in and make the comment she did then she obviously means what she said. I don't see her agreeing with comments if she thought he needed to hear what was being said, she would have just ignored them like they normally do.

I think the opposite. I think the comments are REALLY getting to them lately and Katie is fed up in general, with the comments, with youtube, with Cullen especially but since their chat I think she (both really) is trying to hide it more and pretend its all great. I think she's backing him now because he already seems to be so uninterested in being a husband and parent. She admitted he just kisses her and stuff for the vlogs at times, I think she's worried he's going to leave so she's acting like everything is FINE. Her body language during their ocnfession video really spoke volumes, and the vlogs since as well imo.

[Playsinrain]

I agree with Katie on this one, there was zero reason for Cullen and MG and everyone else to be at Urgent Care. Katie was fine with it, so i see no reason to bitch about it. MG had fun with her dad and grandparents and Brooks was fine. Cullen also didn't seem drunk to me, a little buzzed, yes, and wouldn't have been able to drive. But there were plenty of grandparents who were not drinking (i don't think) that would have been able to take Cullen to Katie and Brooks if things went down hill (and who would want to be there with Cullen if things got so bad Katie thought he needed to be there)
Also, no one is forcing anyone to pay for superchat. If people want to spend money on something like that then so be it. It's just like buying merch. No i wouldn't do it, but that's my decision and C&K have no control over other decisions. I would turn it on if i were in their place, if people want to pay to talk to them that's their prerogative and a good business decision on C&K's end. Does it make the livestream annoying? Sure, but i just dont watch them. C&K aren't forcing anyone to pay to watch, just like M&B aren't forcing anyone to buy their ugly backpacks. It's 100% the same principal.

I was wondering where you were to agree with them. But, I do agree about the superchat. If someone is willing to pay...let them.

I agree with the last poster who said that they made this into something they shouldn't have with the click bait. Maybe i'm biased bc i dealt with a croupy kid for years and Brooks was really not that bad. (HIs O2 was 99%, ive been in the peds office when my child's has dipped into the 80"s and was transferred to the ER for breathing treatments bc they didn't want to do them in office. All without my husband who i was in contact with by text like katie was, and we made it fine. Even asking the ER staff if i needed to call my husband to come there and they told me "please no, the less bodies in this room the better. We will let you know if he is needed" ) They totally made it out like it was some dire medical emergency with the title and thats where they went wrong and the main reason Cullen is getting shit about it. Brooks was nowhere near not being able to breathe and Katie went about it the same way i have a million times. Like i said, maybe it's bc ive been there, but the past poster was right, this is a click bait backfire more than anything.

[Playsinrain]

Some of the people defending Cullen not going to urgent care have a fit because Bryan doesn't go to regular doctors appointments.

Cullen used to be a good dad, but that isn't his focus anymore. He had mid-life crisis written all over him now!

I get the impression that Katie is letting a lot of things slide to try and keep him happy. If he's a man-child incapable of supporting his wife while they are in urgent care, then that's a problem! I can't imagine how people are somehow dismissing that like it's ok. He was there for the birth of two of his children, and his father's entire treatment and subsequent decline. Cullen knows (or at least knew) how to behave in a clinical setting, he just didn't want to this time.

Idk if you are talking about me, but the only time i have given Bryan shit about not going to Dr's appt's is when it's something like ultrasounds or test results. Cullen was there for every one of MG's ultrasounds and follow up's with her hips. An urgent care appt of a mildly croupy child and an ultrasound/followup appt for suspected heart and/or kidney issues are on two totally different ends of the spectrum in my eyes anyway.

[HelloSweetie]

Some of the people defending Cullen not going to urgent care have a fit because Bryan doesn't go to regular doctors appointments.

Cullen used to be a good dad, but that isn't his focus anymore. He had mid-life crisis written all over him now!

I get the impression that Katie is letting a lot of things slide to try and keep him happy. If he's a man-child incapable of supporting his wife while they are in urgent care, then that's a problem! I can't imagine how people are somehow dismissing that like it's ok. He was there for the birth of two of his children, and his father's entire treatment and subsequent decline. Cullen knows (or at least knew) how to behave in a clinical setting, he just didn't want to this time.

Idk if you are talking about me, but the only time i have given Bryan shit about not going to Dr's appt's is when it's something like ultrasounds or test results. Cullen was there for every one of MG's ultrasounds and follow up's with her hips. An urgent care appt of a mildly croupy child and an ultrasound/followup appt for suspected heart and/or kidney issues are on two totally different ends of the spectrum in my eyes anyway.

No. Not just you. But RBF is right. There are regs from both boards giving Cullen passes on things that Bryan would have been crucified for. How is Cullen any better of anoarent LATELY? Yes he used to go to MG's appointments and yes he cared for her when she was little. What people are talking about is how he seems to have regressed into a more traditional mentality where Katie does all the parenting and he just plays with the kids. They have a dynamic going on right now that I think most of us would absolutely hate and would not tolerate.

How is Cullen a model parent/husband these days?

[FitMom]

I agree with Katie on this one, there was zero reason for Cullen and MG and everyone else to be at Urgent Care. Katie was fine with it, so i see no reason to bitch about it. MG had fun with her dad and grandparents and Brooks was fine. Cullen also didn't seem drunk to me, a little buzzed, yes, and wouldn't have been able to drive. But there were plenty of grandparents who were not drinking (i don't think) that would have been able to take Cullen to Katie and Brooks if things went down hill (and who would want to be there with Cullen if things got so bad Katie thought he needed to be there)
Also, no one is forcing anyone to pay for superchat. If people want to spend money on something like that then so be it. It's just like buying merch. No i wouldn't do it, but that's my decision and C&K have no control over other decisions. I would turn it on if i were in their place, if people want to pay to talk to them that's their prerogative and a good business decision on C&K's end. Does it make the livestream annoying? Sure, but i just dont watch them. C&K aren't forcing anyone to pay to watch, just like M&B aren't forcing anyone to buy their ugly backpacks. It's 100% the same principal.

I was wondering where you were to agree with them. But, I do agree about the superchat. If someone is willing to pay...let them.

I agree with the last poster who said that they made this into something they shouldn't have with the click bait. Maybe i'm biased bc i dealt with a croupy kid for years and Brooks was really not that bad. (HIs O2 was 99%, ive been in the peds office when my child's has dipped into the 80"s and was transferred to the ER for breathing treatments bc they didn't want to do them in office. All without my husband who i was in contact with by text like katie was, and we made it fine. Even asking the ER staff if i needed to call my husband to come there and they told me "please no, the less bodies in this room the better. We will let you know if he is needed" ) They totally made it out like it was some dire medical emergency with the title and thats where they went wrong and the main reason Cullen is getting shit about it. Brooks was nowhere near not being able to breathe and Katie went about it the same way i have a million times. Like i said, maybe it's bc ive been there, but the past poster was right, this is a click bait backfire more than anything.

I was just joking with you, I know you like them. I like them too and have watched them from the beginning. Just saying it is ok to criticize them. They put themselves out there and have to realize that they would get this response on certain things.

The paragraph looked like a bunch of excuses for him again. She is probably used to the Mother having a bigger role in the lives of their children. I am sure she grew up like that. I do feel bad for her, but she is enabling his behavior as well.

But, that wasn't really my issue with it all anyway. My issue was bringing Brooks out in that heat for a stupid parade. Also, having him ride on a golf cart in Tuscaloosa. People drive crazy down there and are drunk by lunch time. Just not smart at all.

[Playsinrain]

Some of the people defending Cullen not going to urgent care have a fit because Bryan doesn't go to regular doctors appointments.

Cullen used to be a good dad, but that isn't his focus anymore. He had mid-life crisis written all over him now!

I get the impression that Katie is letting a lot of things slide to try and keep him happy. If he's a man-child incapable of supporting his wife while they are in urgent care, then that's a problem! I can't imagine how people are somehow dismissing that like it's ok. He was there for the birth of two of his children, and his father's entire treatment and subsequent decline. Cullen knows (or at least knew) how to behave in a clinical setting, he just didn't want to this time.

Idk if you are talking about me, but the only time i have given Bryan shit about not going to Dr's appt's is when it's something like ultrasounds or test results. Cullen was there for every one of MG's ultrasounds and follow up's with her hips. An urgent care appt of a mildly croupy child and an ultrasound/followup appt for suspected heart and/or kidney issues are on two totally different ends of the spectrum in my eyes anyway.

No. Not just you. But RBF is right. There are regs from both boards giving Cullen passes on things that Bryan would have been crucified for. How is Cullen any better of anoarent LATELY? Yes he used to go to MG's appointments and yes he cared for her when she was little. What people are talking about is how he seems to have regressed into a more traditional mentality where Katie does all the parenting and he just plays with the kids. They have a dynamic going on right now that I think most of us would absolutely hate and would not tolerate.

How is Cullen a model parent/husband these days?

I know my opinion of Cullen (and Katie really) isn't popular, and i'm fine with that. I just don't see the outrage that some do over this. He goes to pretty much every dr's appts these kids have, and always has. Not going to one urgent care appt doesn't make him a horrible person in my eyes. (also i do know it's been more than one appt he's missed. But when kids are sick and your only option is UC, there is ZERO reason the well child should be taken to the ER or UC just to be exposed to all the germs under the sun. Most times he stays back with the well child, which is just as important to me) Even with the grandparents there to watch MG, the less people you have exposed to those germs the less chance you have of bringing something worse home. Sure most of the complaints about Cullen's parenting go beyond this whole situation, but i honestly don't see him as terrible father some are putting him off as.
Cullen has never been the model parent or husband here, i'm not saying that he is one, but i don't think him skipping an UC visit is the tipping point of him becoming the worst dad ever.

[Playsinrain]

I was wondering where you were to agree with them. But, I do agree about the superchat. If someone is willing to pay...let them.

I agree with the last poster who said that they made this into something they shouldn't have with the click bait. Maybe i'm biased bc i dealt with a croupy kid for years and Brooks was really not that bad. (HIs O2 was 99%, ive been in the peds office when my child's has dipped into the 80"s and was transferred to the ER for breathing treatments bc they didn't want to do them in office. All without my husband who i was in contact with by text like katie was, and we made it fine. Even asking the ER staff if i needed to call my husband to come there and they told me "please no, the less bodies in this room the better. We will let you know if he is needed" ) They totally made it out like it was some dire medical emergency with the title and thats where they went wrong and the main reason Cullen is getting shit about it. Brooks was nowhere near not being able to breathe and Katie went about it the same way i have a million times. Like i said, maybe it's bc ive been there, but the past poster was right, this is a click bait backfire more than anything.

I was just joking with you, I know you like them. I like them too and have watched them from the beginning. Just saying it is ok to criticize them. They put themselves out there and have to realize that they would get this response on certain things.

The paragraph looked like a bunch of excuses for him again. She is probably used to the Mother having a bigger role in the lives of their children. I am sure she grew up like that. I do feel bad for her, but she is enabling his behavior as well.

But, that wasn't really my issue with it all anyway. My issue was bringing Brooks out in that heat for a stupid parade. Also, having him ride on a golf cart in Tuscaloosa. People drive crazy down there and are drunk by lunch time. Just not smart at all.

LOl i didn't take it personally

I do not think that they should have had him out at the parade. That humid heat isn't going to help him breathe any easier.

[taracuda]

Long term reader/lurker here! I have been watching C&K's videos for around 2 years-i found them by coincidence while searching for car seat reviews on YT and continued watching them because they were so relatable. My husband and I are around C&K's age, struggled with infertility, etc and it was like having friends that were in the same stage of life as us. (all of our friends have much older kids than we do) But I have to say over the last year,particularly since they moved to the new house I can barely make it through their vlogs. As someone who suffered from PPD I feel like Katie is definitely struggling with something similar and I think Cullen completely ignores her cues/requests for help. As previous posters have mentioned, I too feel like Katie is making excuses for him just to keep the peace. I completely agree that Katie taking Brooks to the urgent care alone while Cullen sat in the skybox was just plain ridiculous. Bronchiolitis is scary and definitely serious and I don't understand any Father that could hear his son breathing like that and think it was cool to skip out. There are definitely some serious issues between these two and I feel like we are only beginning to scratch the surface as to what they are going through. I absolutely think Cullen needs to snap out of the man-child mindset but, Katie needs to get some help, too. She obviously has an emotionally distant (to her) husband so looking to him for help is unrealistic and only setting them up for failure.

[FitMom]

playsinrain,


Yeah too bad it wasn't like this week. High in the. 60's.